[ale] OT: unlimited plans !?!
Neal Rhodes
neal at mnopltd.com
Wed Feb 15 15:31:39 EST 2017
Well, I dunno about you, but I paid exactly zero dinero for all of my
Verizon phones, going back donkey's ages, including both Kyocera Palm
Pilots. When Verizon is giving me a $500 phone, and getting most of
that back over time each month, I cannot really complain if they have
made efforts to prevent me from jumping ship to another carrier.
Although, using CDMA instead of GSM is a pretty big step in that
direction. It seems most of their modern phones also support GSM.
Reading their notes on unlocking policy, it seems they do unlock their
prepaid phones after a year.
OTOH, I can get really hacked sometimes that there have been zero
Android updates to my HTC phone for about 4 years now, and apparently
nothing on the horizon. Apparently they want me to chunk a perfectly
good phone.
On Wed, 2017-02-15 at 10:48 -0500, Charles Shapiro wrote:
> Verizon's phones typically feature locked bootloaders and obstacles to
> rooting tools. T-Mobile is marginally better. I don't know if that's
> just negligence or the result of a hideous political fight in the
> technical departments. I do, however, want control of my own devices
> with a minimum of hassle.
>
>
>
> -- CHS
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 8:41 PM, <neal at mnopltd.com> wrote:
>
> Yeah, but Verizon makes up for it by having really expensive
> plans to using the same phone in Europe... *8-) But, I
> understand their phones are unlocked for international use, so
> you can buy a SIM card at the airport when you land.
>
>
> But seriously folks.... Verizon seems to have a tower pretty
> much everywhere. We were camped in Humbolt state park 100
> miles north of San Francisco, amongst the redwoods, and there
> ain't NOTHING around this park. No gas stations, no stores,
> no convenience stores, no houses. And we have a 4-bar
> Verizon signal.
>
>
> In aggregate terms, one suspects that European carriers have
> far fewer towers to maintain.
>
>
> I actually USED TO have an unlimited Verizon plan, but never
> did use enough of it to justify keeping it. They have
> gotten increasingly more reasonable - I guess my many years of
> complaining to them as both our children and my wife left them
> for Ting.
>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [ale] OT: unlimited plans !?!
> From: Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, February 14, 2017 7:31 pm
> To: "Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!"
> <ale at ale.org>
>
>
>
>
> Yeah. The US has stupid expensive data plans on phone
> and home.
>
>
> On Feb 14, 2017 7:28 PM, "Boris Borisov"
> <bugyatl at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The other day I was discussing with friend of
> mine who is living in Europe about my Android
> camera app not having button for adjusting
> image size. I need to upload pics on my work
> phone but not needed to be 3.5 MB each.
>
>
>
> My friend was like "what kind of internet you
> have that you care for image size" ?
>
>
>
> Me: " 2GB from Verizon"
>
>
>
> He literally laughed in my face :) "Mine is 26
> GB internet on 4G for 10$ a month" and he
> showed his statistics 86 Mbit down and 18
> Mbit up.
>
>
>
> My Verizon phone showed 18 down and somewhere
> 2 up.
>
>
>
> I didn't say anything more :)
>
>
>
>
> P.S. Wouldn’t bother you with that story but
> just read the
> http://www.businessinsider.com/unlimited-plans-comparison-verizon-att-sprint-tmobile-2017-2/#verizon-3
>
>
>
> P.P.S. I installed open camera app to solve
> the issue
>
>
>
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