[ale] [was] Re: Give application write access to /dev/console?

Mon Aug 28 09:32:32 EDT 2017

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/09/12/turn_off_location_services_go_ahead_says_google_well_still_track_you/

"You can try to deny Google Play access to your handheld's location by
opening the Settings app and digging through Apps -> Google Play Store
-> Permissions, and flipping the switch for "location." But you'll be
told you can't just shut out Google Play services: you have to switch
off location services for all apps if you want to block the store from
knowing your whereabouts. It's all or nothing, which isn't particularly
nice."

You can disable location tracking history in your google account
settings online.  Whether this prevents capture of the data or just
hides it from you online is an unknown.

"Don't be evil" was google's moto for a while.  Now it is "Don't get
caught being creepy, but capture everything you can."

99.999% of computer/smartphone users don't really understand the level
that companies, especially google, have gone to capture as much data as
possible about us.

If you don't want to be tracked, there is only 1 solution, besides
leaving your phone at home.
Buy one of these AND use it: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IQHZS78

or

https://www.amazon.com/Blocking-Wisdompro-Shielding-Privacy-Protection/dp/B01HETGX00/

Be certain to actually test it yourself.  Mine blocks all RF stuff in/out.

None of this is new, it is just that most people assumed it was too hard
to NOT use google stuff/tools.  That isn't the situation.

On 08/28/2017 07:39 AM, Jim Kinney wrote:
> It requires the play store app and services to be running. The play
> store has the location tracker.
> 
> I found, by digging, the location history that stuff collected. It was
> detailed enough that it could stand up in court as a method to place me
> near a crime scene or exonerate me. So I went through and turned it all
> off. The gmail app then barfed warnings about missing functionality
> until some tracking stuff was reactivated. Additionally, I found no way
> to stop gmail from respecting my choice for firefox. I frequently get
> news notices from a friend I travelled to Ireland with. Gmail started
> using only chrome for links. Chrome has no method to flush browser
> history that I could find.
> 
> K-9 works just fine. Firefox works just fine. Cuprum pdf viewer is
> pretty crappy (can only display first of a multi-page pdf).
> 
> I have a nice, new Oneplus 5 and I'm very close to doing a full wipe and
> install only apps from freedroid.
> 
> On August 28, 2017 2:10:01 AM EDT, Alex Carver
> <agcarver+ale at acarver.net> wrote:
> 
>     I was searching for information on this but couldn't find it.  Is it
>     really requiring location services to be turned on all the time?  Is it
>     not possible to disable location tracking through the system settings?
>     In the Play store it doesn't list location as a permission.
> 
>     I use K-9 as well but I was curious about the Gmail app needing location
>     data.
> 
>     On 2017-08-27 20:36, Jim Kinney wrote:
> 
>         Once I noticed the gmail app update required turning on and
>         leaving on the
>         location tracking, that was the end of using it for me.
> 
>         Google made using their email with non-google tool look like an
>         insecure mess.
>         All FUD.
> 
>         Probably dumping google.com <http://google.com>
>         <http://google.com> email soon, too.
> 
>         On August 27, 2017 11:18:06 PM EDT, Kyle Brieden
>         <kyle at txmoose.com> wrote:
> 
>         I love that I'm not the only person in the world still using K-9
>         mail on
>         Android :D
> 
>         ---
>         Very respectfully,
>         Kyle Brieden
> 
>         On 27-08-2017 14:44, Jim Kinney wrote:
> 
>         Bwahaha!
> 
>         On August 27, 2017 1:15:34 PM EDT, Ben Coleman <oloryn at benshome.net>
>         wrote:
> 
>         On 8/26/2017 04:58 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
> 
>         Ah.
> 
>         Remedy. Ugh.
> 
> 
>         So, it's not so much the Remedy as it is the Disease?
> 
>         Ben
> 
> 
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