[ale] Bash vs Perl

[Michael Potter]

Here is my speakerrate page with the description of the bash preso:
https://speakerrate.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=michael+potter



On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 3:51 PM, Lightner, Jeffrey <JLightner at dsservices.com
> wrote:

> You can avoid a lot of performance drain from doing multiple processes
> based on large files but putting the file into an array in bash then doing
> your subsequent processing against that array.   It eliminates the disk
> reads that would otherwise make things go to a crawl.   Of course you can
> (and usually do) do that in Perl and other languages.
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> The reason Perl is typically more efficient is it isn’t having to invoke
> subshells for calls to modules/routines whereas bash and other shells do.
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> *From:* ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] *On Behalf Of *Ed
> Cashin
> *Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2016 3:35 PM
> *To:* Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
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> *Subject:* Re: [ale] Bash vs Perl
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> A few times (in the mid 2000s) I prototyped in shell only to switch to
> ruby to avoid the overhead of forking.  It was still a huge performance
> improvement, even with the interpreted language.  It depends a lot on what
> the program is doing.
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> On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 12:55 PM, leam hall <leamhall at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I'm not sure I know a lot of Ruby either, but the logic is the same.
> Calling sub-programs is expensive in terms of minute measurements. Overall,
> if you fork 25 time in one day, what's the actual impact? If you fork 2500
> times a second for several hours straight, then you probably want a
> compiled language.
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> On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Chris Fowler <
> cfowler at outpostsentinel.com> wrote:
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> *From: *"leam hall" <leamhall at gmail.com>
> *To: *"Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts" <ale at ale.org>
> *Sent: *Monday, October 24, 2016 12:08:48 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [ale] Bash vs Perl
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> My unsolicited opinion, based off using Ruby, is that if the cost of a
> fork is critical use C or Go. Otherwise, "a difference that makes no
> difference is no difference".
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> I don't know Ruby, but I'm sure you can text processing without executing
> awk, cut, sed, tr, and their other friends.   I'm talking about the expense
> when you need to do processing that would require call those programs.
> The annoyances of those friends is the subject of another day. :)
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