[ale] Privacy!

Jerald Sheets questy at gmail.com
Wed Aug 24 20:49:40 EDT 2016


Well, I have been a HIPAA compliance person for a major hospital in the past.

The issue is not showing ID for the purposes of proving who I am.  The issue is the scanning of my drivers license (with all the PII and the personal signature on it) for storage in their system.

I have ZERO problem proving who I am.  I have a lot of problems allowing them to store the scan of my ID.

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Jerald M. Sheets, jr.

> On Aug 24, 2016, at 5:15 PM, Chuck Balog <chuckbalog at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The flip side of this is that they take your ID to be sure that it's you. Identity theft can take many forms. Here's an old KHN article that's relevant: http://khn.org/news/medical-id/
> 
> However, having worked for HHS, a hospital, and an insurance company, I can tell you that only a few pieces of the information that they ask for is for claims. Many insurance companies require an SSN for a claim to be electronically processed along with the plan details, etc. The other info they ask for like your phone numbers, where you work, etc. is meant for collections. I will tell you that I've never known a medical office to run a credit check on a patient. I have seen them refuse to process a claim and slide the paper form over to anyone refusing to provide SSN and demand payment in full.
> 
> I can tell you that just about every EMR system that's consumed as a service (most are these days) has to have at least an annual audit (but commonly quarterly) to comply with the HIPAA Security Rule. Details here:http://www.nist.gov/healthcare/security/hipaasecurity.cfm I'm not saying that makes it safe, (because I've had some WTF moments in audits) but someone is watching and following up.
> 
> Hope the info is valuable.
> 
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 4:17 PM leam hall <leamhall at gmail.com> wrote:
>> While I agree with your concern, if you were born in the US, have a credit card, see a doctor, or shop with a credit card, pretty much all of your information is for sale world-wide. The illusion of security is voided by the reality of security costs and the public still shopping at Target.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:57 PM, Jerald Sheets <questy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Since many of you are privacy conscious, I’m curious as to how you handle the increasing requirements of medical offices to scan and store your drivers license to receive care.  
>>> 
>>> I don’t mind proving who I am, but we just got dropped by a pediatrician for refusing to allow them to scan and store our driver’s license.  It was a good pediatrician, too!
>>> 
>>> Any anecdotes, links to the actual statutes, etc.?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> —jms
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