[ale] Origins of Linux, do we care?

Jim Kinney jkinney at jimkinney.us
Fri Sep 18 14:15:31 EDT 2015


Systemd is a small tool that does one thing, it starts the system as chosen by the admin. 

On September 18, 2015 12:51:54 PM EDT, leam hall <leamhall at gmail.com> wrote:
>On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Solomon Peachy <pizza at shaftnet.org>
>wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 11:16:40AM -0400, leam hall wrote:
>> > Do we care?
>> >
>> > https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~awb/linux.history.html
>>
>> It's not much of a history if it was written on July 31, 1992.
>>
>
>It provides insight into original motivations.
>
>> systemd bothers me at a visceral level. It really does seem like an
>MS
>> > minded beast controlling a Linux shell; a monster from horror
>films. It
>> > looks like Linux and we are supposed to just like it? If we like
>systemd,
>> > why care about Linux at all? Why not just do Windows and totally
>succumb?
>>
>> Are you seriously saying that the epitome of a proprietary, closed,
>> vendor-specific system is somehow comparable to a solution that is
>not
>> only (vastly) technically superior, highly customizable, and provided
>> under a Free Software license?
>>
>> ...So what exactly are you basing your feelings on here?  Be
>specific.
>>
>
> Yes. We have a system that's vastly technically superior, highly
>customizable, and provided under  Free Software license. It was also
>not so
>intrusive, and that is what really bugs me.
>
>There is the philosophy of "small tools" as a point of elegance. There
>is
>also the pragmatic requirement of not having to learn a new OS amount
>of
>stuff to stay on the same OS. There is also the point of lightweight
>which
>keeps systems zippy. There is also the basic idea of giving you
>options.
>
>Really, I hear nothing about systemd that makes me think it's a good
>idea.
>When it's so intrusive it definitely becomes a bad idea. Really, from
>usability and morality it is no better than MS.
>
>Leam
>
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