[ale] Buwahahah! This is great

[Pete Hardie]

Right now, it is the Justice Dept that is lobbying for the Supremes to
refuse the case.

On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 7:53 PM, Michael Trausch <mike at trausch.us> wrote:

> Please explain to me how to fight a decision made by SC(r)OTU(m)S when
> there is no appeal process and there is no way to make them grant a hearing
> on any topic anyway? Am I missing something? Please tell me I am missing
> something. Because this really looks to me like the end of the road unless
> the executive rewrites the statutes and that scares me even more.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 29, 2015, at 1:58 PM, Pete Hardie <pete.hardie at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I doubt this will stand..  I'm fairly sure IBM has a big enough stake in
> UNIX/Linux business to be willing to fight it, and the Big G can take this
> further.
>
> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Michael Trausch <mike at trausch.us> wrote:
>
>> Yes I remember the first judge.
>>
>> But he doesn't matter. It's the nine morons who make the law of the land
>> who matter. And how they cannot hold themselves to at least the same
>> standard as a lesser judge, despite the fact that they have literally no
>> reason to make a false or undue ruling.... Well, I just don't know how they
>> could've screwed that poor pooch so awful.
>>
>> As I understand it, this is now the law of the land. That puts everything
>> we've ever done at great risk here. We use Linux. It is an implementation
>> of the UNIX API, and several vendors own rights that they can now use to
>> stop its use.
>>
>> Java? Well we KNOW Oracle will sue you.
>>
>> Hrm... Is SQL an API? Better stop using them in the United States just to
>> be safe.
>>
>> I mean really. Now we need to write our own kernel and an intentionally
>> incompatible C library to prevent being sued (and losing the lawsuit!)
>>
>> I honestly don't know how to work in this environment. The more I think
>> about it the more it seems to me I'd better avoid the problem entirely by
>> ducking under the wing of an employer and throwing the idea of the business
>> away.
>>
>> Or move to Canada which welcomes programmers and still provides among the
>> best of environments for them.
>>
>> Think one of the wives would like that idea. The other one not so much.
>> The kids? Who knows.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 29, 2015, at 9:32 AM, Charles Shapiro <hooterpincher at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yeh, it's tres crazy.  The first judge (the esteemed William Alsup)
>> actually learned to program in Java (
>> http://radar.oreilly.com/2012/05/judge-alsup-codes.html ) so he could
>> understand the issues, then wound up ruling that APIs were NOT
>> copyrightable.  Alas, the court on appeal was not so thorough.
>>
>> -- CHS
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 1:32 AM, Michael Trausch <mike at trausch.us> wrote:
>>
>>> For fucks sake. I haven't even the words.
>>>
>>> If I could get sued for wiring code that does nothing more than links to
>>> another library, I don't see any reasonable not rational choice but to find
>>> something else to do!
>>>
>>> How can they not see that it is exactly the same as the interface of
>>> keyboard to user, or steering wheel to driver? The steering wheel is an
>>> universally accepted "operational interface" to a vehicle. If an API can be
>>> copyrighted, which is nothing more than a descriptor of what's behind it,
>>> then it should be perfectly fair to abuse copyright as patent on the
>>> steering wheel.
>>>
>>> What a mindfuck.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On May 28, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Charles Shapiro <hooterpincher at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> You probably don't want to read it if you're already mad about something
>>> else..
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150526/16550931121/obama-administration-files-totally-clueless-argument-concerning-software-copyrights-supreme-court-case.shtml
>>>
>>> -- CHS
>>>
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