[ale] hard drive recorder and hdmi or component

[Narahari 'n' Savitha]

It has firewire but will it maintain resolution ?

On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Boris Borisov <bugyatl at gmail.com> wrote:

> What interface this camcorder have .. I have an old DV camcorder with
> Firewire and I think Firewire is typical for these cameras.
>
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 12:08 AM, Narahari 'n' Savitha <
> savithari at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Here is something that will help me.  I have a Canon camcorder that is
>> tape based (dont ask why)  It is a HD camcorder with max at 1080i.  I have
>> some recordings on it.  It has no copyright protection.  I would love to
>> play from it and record it to a PC.  Except the 225 pounds solution, is
>> there any solution that folks can think of ?
>>
>> -N
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 8:41 PM, JD <jdp at algoloma.com> wrote:
>>
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>>> http://www.magictv.com/hk/en/index.html
>>>  The prices are HKD, so don't hvae a heart attack.
>>>
>>> It is a big world out there.
>>>
>>> On 11/09/2014 07:55 PM, Michael H. Warfield wrote:
>>> > On Sun, 2014-11-09 at 13:31 -0800, Alex Carver wrote:
>>> >> On 2014-11-09 12:39, Narahari 'n' Savitha wrote:
>>> >>> Friends:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Need your input on the following scenario.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I need to be able to a Hard Drive (preferably a USB flash drive)
>>> from a
>>> >>> set top box.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> If it can accept HDMI input it is great.  If not, at least component
>>> >>> video input is needed so I can connect my set top box.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Where can I purchase a Hard Drive recorder without a PC coming into
>>> >>> the middle ? What is it called (technical term) ?
>>> >>>
>>> >
>>> >> You can't get HDMI recorders that will work with the copy protection
>>> >> enabled on STBs or other similar content devices (except for cameras).
>>> >> Your only option is to find a Digital Video Recorder (DVR) that
>>> accepts
>>> >> composite or S-Video (I haven't seen any that accept RGB component
>>> >> video).
>>> >
>>> >> Here's an example of an HDMI recorder that's meant for a camera:
>>> >> http://www.atomos.com/ninja/
>>> >
>>> >> Copy protection on your STB will likely not allow it to record
>>> anything.
>>> >
>>> > Actually, that's not totally true and for my uses very rarely true.
>>> > Depending on your requirements and uses, I have found that very little
>>> > coming from the STB's are copy protected.
>>> >
>>> > I have Uverse STBs and they all allow digital recording from HDMI and
>>> > component video when the data is not protected.  If it's protected,
>>> then
>>> > you have to have the appropriate HDMI device (like a TV and not another
>>> > recorder) for HDMI and, if you're using component video, the component
>>> > video is reduced to a lower resolution (what they call the "analog
>>> hole").
>>> > I'm currently using an Hauppauge HD PVR2 adapter to record 1080p
>>> component
>>> > video off my STB, so THAT can be done (but that's to a PC).  I have
>>> checked
>>> > the videos and the resulting files are true 1080p 60fps (meaning I
>>> barely
>>> > have the horse power to play them back).
>>> >
>>> > The only exceptions I've noted on AT&T are some of the high end premium
>>> > channels (few of which we have) and the PPV access.  Those do seem to
>>> be
>>> > locked down so you can't record HDMI and component is down-res (to
>>> 720p...
>>> > I think).
>>> >
>>> > Now that's WITH a PC.  I don't know of any standaone boxes which
>>> support
>>> > this but, in theory, any component video record should work just fine.
>>> HDMI
>>> > is another story.  I agree that HDMI is highly unlikely to be
>>> available on
>>> > a stand alone device and record protected feeds.
>>> >
>>> > I haven't tried any of the HDMI PC interfaces yet.  There was a good
>>> one
>>> > (the Black Magic devices) that had Linux support if you bought their
>>> PCI
>>> > express board but they didn't have drivers for their USB device because
>>> > Linux lacked USB3 bulk transfer (irrc) support in the kernel drivers,
>>> but
>>> > that was years ago.  That may have changed.
>>> >
>>> > This one claims full 1080p HDMI record and plug and play support in
>>> > Linux...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://www.ems-imaging.com/index.php/usb-3-0-video-capture/vc100dusb-hdmi-capture-dongle-usb3
>>> >
>>> >  But, again, that's with a PC and, I know, the OP said without a PC.
>>> Quite
>>> > frankly, I've had enough with black boxes and I see no real advantage
>>> > there.
>>> >
>>> > I do also strongly suspect you will not find a "without a PC" device
>>> that
>>> > will do this as this would mean the vendor has to do all that work and
>>> open
>>> > themselves up to all the legal liability there-in.
>>> >
>>> > Just the interfaces alone ARE NOT CHEAP.
>>> >
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