[ale] hard drive recorder and hdmi or component

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On 11/09/2014 07:55 PM, Michael H. Warfield wrote:
> On Sun, 2014-11-09 at 13:31 -0800, Alex Carver wrote:
>> On 2014-11-09 12:39, Narahari 'n' Savitha wrote:
>>> Friends:
>>> 
>>> Need your input on the following scenario.
>>> 
>>> I need to be able to a Hard Drive (preferably a USB flash drive) from a
>>> set top box.
>>> 
>>> If it can accept HDMI input it is great.  If not, at least component
>>> video input is needed so I can connect my set top box.
>>> 
>>> Where can I purchase a Hard Drive recorder without a PC coming into
>>> the middle ? What is it called (technical term) ?
>>> 
> 
>> You can't get HDMI recorders that will work with the copy protection 
>> enabled on STBs or other similar content devices (except for cameras). 
>> Your only option is to find a Digital Video Recorder (DVR) that accepts 
>> composite or S-Video (I haven't seen any that accept RGB component
>> video).
> 
>> Here's an example of an HDMI recorder that's meant for a camera: 
>> http://www.atomos.com/ninja/
> 
>> Copy protection on your STB will likely not allow it to record anything.
> 
> Actually, that's not totally true and for my uses very rarely true. 
> Depending on your requirements and uses, I have found that very little 
> coming from the STB's are copy protected.
> 
> I have Uverse STBs and they all allow digital recording from HDMI and 
> component video when the data is not protected.  If it's protected, then 
> you have to have the appropriate HDMI device (like a TV and not another 
> recorder) for HDMI and, if you're using component video, the component 
> video is reduced to a lower resolution (what they call the "analog hole").
> I'm currently using an Hauppauge HD PVR2 adapter to record 1080p component
> video off my STB, so THAT can be done (but that's to a PC).  I have checked
> the videos and the resulting files are true 1080p 60fps (meaning I barely
> have the horse power to play them back).
> 
> The only exceptions I've noted on AT&T are some of the high end premium 
> channels (few of which we have) and the PPV access.  Those do seem to be 
> locked down so you can't record HDMI and component is down-res (to 720p...
> I think).
> 
> Now that's WITH a PC.  I don't know of any standaone boxes which support 
> this but, in theory, any component video record should work just fine. HDMI
> is another story.  I agree that HDMI is highly unlikely to be available on
> a stand alone device and record protected feeds.
> 
> I haven't tried any of the HDMI PC interfaces yet.  There was a good one 
> (the Black Magic devices) that had Linux support if you bought their PCI 
> express board but they didn't have drivers for their USB device because 
> Linux lacked USB3 bulk transfer (irrc) support in the kernel drivers, but
> that was years ago.  That may have changed.
> 
> This one claims full 1080p HDMI record and plug and play support in 
> Linux...
> 
> http://www.ems-imaging.com/index.php/usb-3-0-video-capture/vc100dusb-hdmi-capture-dongle-usb3
>
>  But, again, that's with a PC and, I know, the OP said without a PC. Quite
> frankly, I've had enough with black boxes and I see no real advantage
> there.
> 
> I do also strongly suspect you will not find a "without a PC" device that
> will do this as this would mean the vendor has to do all that work and open
> themselves up to all the legal liability there-in.
> 
> Just the interfaces alone ARE NOT CHEAP.
> 
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