[ale] NanoPC

Jim Kinney jim.kinney at gmail.com
Thu Mar 6 12:15:42 EST 2014


Aren't large college campus IT issues fun?!?!?


I forgot you were at UaB (I think) and that kind of environment (like mine
at Emory) provides rather, um, unique problems.


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Beddingfield, Allen <allen at ua.edu> wrote:

> The problem we have is that we end up acting as more a central hosting
> provider at times...  we have so many disjointed areas around campus doing
> things on their own...they go and have someone develop a site for them,
> THEN put in the request for us to host it.  We don't have a central web
> development team, although we have pockets of web developers who know what
> they are doing, and for the most part, they run critical sites.  Right now,
> we have 500+ WordPress sites, and one of our Security employees spends a
> good portion of his time trying to get people to patch their WordPress
> before it gets hacked, etc...
> Yay.
> Allen B.
>
> --
> Allen Beddingfield
> Systems Engineer
> The University of Alabama
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> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> Subject: Re: [ale] NanoPC
>
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Beddingfield, Allen <allen at ua.edu<mailto:
> allen at ua.edu>> wrote:
> I'm constantly arguing with boneheaded web developers who go and do their
> development on the latest bleeding-edge release of Ubuntu, Fedora, or
> OpenSUSE on a VM on their workstations, then expect me to upgrade the PHP
> on our SLES servers to that version on their test VM.
> At this point, I have to point out that we provide test/dev space on an
> identical server to production for a reason...and then they stomp and rant
> and rave, and I have to escalate to management and let them tell them "not
> just no, but hell no" on pulling in unsupported PHP packages or setting
> them up a special Debuntu VM for their site.
> Bleeding edge releases + web developers = a deadly combination and a huge
> security problem.
> Allen B.
>
> That's always an issue. I changed our HPC stack from CentOS to Fedora to
> avoid a mess of broken lib issues. At least these don't see public traffic.
> PHP is scary enough without running the latest developer versions on a
> public site.
>
> I call those developers "lazy and soon to be unemployed". Provide them a
> mirror environment of the production realm to develop in and if they can't
> make it work, they can explain whey the design needs to change or they can
> work somewhere else.
>
> --
> --
> James P. Kinney III
>
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> at one end you lose at the other. It's like feeding a dog on his own tail.
> It won't fatten the dog.
> - Speech 11/23/1900 Mark Twain
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James P. Kinney III

Every time you stop a school, you will have to build a jail. What you gain
at one end you lose at the other. It's like feeding a dog on his own tail.
It won't fatten the dog.
- Speech 11/23/1900 Mark Twain


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