[ale] Anybody know office overhead in Atlanta?
Neal Rhodes
neal at mnopltd.com
Thu Sep 19 21:52:16 EDT 2013
Thanks. Now, the challenging part, if you do it the hard way, is start
figuring out how many square feet, and how much breakroom, and how much
bathroom, and how much conference room.
Or you hope that somebody knows how many developers they have and what
the total bill is and you just divide it out to get a per-developer cost
for the whole facility.
On Thu, 2013-09-19 at 20:08 -0400, Scott McBrien wrote:
> Here's a rough, ROUGH estimate.
>
>
> In Buckhead you pay about $25/sqft/yr for a full service lease (that
> includes taxes, insurance, and usually janitorial). On top of that
> you have to pay for utilities. Most big buildings will take their
> estimated electricity and water and have you pay a part of that based
> on your square footage. Then you're responsible for your own internet
> (though there's usually only one provider), telephony,
> cable/satellite. I saw an announcement about a utility rate increase
> a while back, I want to say its something like $1.40/ft for utilities
> and about $200/mo for very basic internet. We use VoIP phones, so no
> telephony charges there.
>
>
> So if it's 26.90/ft/year including utilities, you can figure out how
> much it is per month for the workspace size you're expecting. Then
> add your other extras in top of that and there you go.
>
>
> If you need a buildout, the cost will be calculated (with a 10-12%
> interest rate) and added to your lease rate over the term of your
> lease.
>
>
> -Scott
>
> On Sep 19, 2013, at 7:34 PM, Neal Rhodes <neal at mnopltd.com> wrote:
>
>
> > Yes, I get all that. I have a double office in my home. What I
> > don't have is the cost justification, and for that I need to get
> > real cost of commercial real estate with all the associated
> > services.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 2013-09-19 at 17:17 -0400, Wolf Halton wrote:
> >
> > > Keep the compute power in a colo somewhere, and let the developers
> > > work from home. pay the devs more and save the office
> > > expenses. :-) An extra $K per month per person would be pretty
> > > good incentive.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Wolf Halton
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> > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Ron Frazier (ALE)
> > > <atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't know the answer to your question, but don't forget
> > > to consider the "instant" office companies like Regus
> > > where you pay a flat rate and they provide all the real
> > > estate, building, infrastructure, staff, receptionist,
> > > janitor, etc.
> > >
> > > I have no idea how economical they are.
> > >
> > > If rolling your own, I would imagine prices would vary
> > > dramatically depending on whether you're in the city of
> > > Atlanta $$$, Buckhead $$$, Alpharetta $$, Norcross $$,
> > > Cumming $, etc.
> > >
> > > It would probably also depend on how much data
> > > infrastructure you need and how much equipment (and power)
> > > each developer needs.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > Ron
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Neal Rhodes <neal at mnopltd.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >I'm having some discussions regarding working
> > > arrangement, and one of
> > > >the factors is the cost of putting a developer in a cube
> > > in Atlanta.
> > > >Versus office at home.
> > > >
> > > >Does anybody have some numbers on the real, fully-loaded
> > > overhead of a
> > > >developer office? I'm not talking about rent per square
> > > foot. I'm
> > > >saying the total annual cost of the facility, rent,
> > > insurance, power,
> > > >Data, janitor, etc, divided by the number of developers
> > > using that
> > > >facility.
> > > >
> > > >Neal Rhodes
> > > >MNOP Ltd
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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