[ale] Fedora install?

Chuck Payne terrorpup at gmail.com
Thu Oct 24 08:28:44 EDT 2013


Leam,

Not to start a distro fight, but that last statement not true.

If you want to work *with* Linux, use *buntu. If you want to work *on*
Linux, use CentOS.

I management about 300+ servers and two data centers, and they are a
mix of CentOS and openSUSE. I can manager all my server and get a lot
done using openSUSE as my desktop.

It all personal choose.

Here is Wisdow on Linux Distro, from my 15 years if working with Linux...

*buntu is for those use to Windows, and does everything for them
pretty much. Like apple iPod, you can get in diffrent colors
peppermint, mint, kundutu, lubuntu, and 100 other different distro.

openSUSE/Fedora/CentOS/PS-BSD is more for you aged used that don't
mind to get a little dirty and hand edit a config file or install tar
bar. They just want a distro that will work, they also don't might
that monocolor too.

Slackware/FreeBSD/Debian  are for those that want to say "I am
hardcore, but I am not total hardcore yet", and don't might doing
everything.

Geento/Arch Linux are for those people that want to build thier own
house from the ground up. Letting shine to all. Not caring that it
might take three days to emerge a system, or that roll distro can
break in a heart break. No they don't mind, they roll shevles and sit
down and start hacking away until they fixed.

Wait, lets not forget about Solaris/Aix/HP-UX, those are for Unix
Sobs, yes, those that feel that Linux is but a child's toy, that a
real man eats P Serials Processors, the only true shell is Korn, bash
is for the lazy, pca is best way to patch and that Smitty is your
friend.

Then there are Zealot, people that grab the source code and build
their own distro, because they want to prove to everyone theirs is the
only linux distro, that all other distro are doing it wrong. These
holy warriors are few. Not to be confuse with those false zealots that
play with SUSE Studio or Slax and have claimed to built their only,
but lie because they are weak and what the honor of Zealot bestow on
them.

The cool thing about Linux, your system reflex you. Because if you
look at those that run it day in and day out, they mod it to were they
can use is. Desktop are like snow flakes, because not are all the
same. Those that are, people that use because they have too, not
because they want too.

You can see the same about Window Manager for X, this too starts many
holy wars among the Unix masses.   I could cover them, but just view
there names and you can see from the list about who uses them, TWM,
CDE, KDE, Gnome, Afterstep/WindowMaker/NeXTStep, Mate, Enlightenment
and many, many more.

Yes, I know I added BSD and Solaris,AIX  and HP-UXto the mix and it
not Linux, my wisdom is more of universe Unix view of Computer world.

Or the oldest and most bloodiest of battle in the Unix world, VI vs
Emacs. How many bodies lay about the Unix battle flied from this one
battle alone.

The last major dived in the Unix world is package manage, yum vs
apt-get vs zypper vs tar balls vs pkgtool. I could go on, but I won't.

Here ends the windows of a PUP.

On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 6:20 AM, Leam Hall <leamhall at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/23/2013 05:31 PM, Michael B. Trausch wrote:
>>
>> On 10/23/2013 05:15 PM, Sean Kilpatrick wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Given what I have read here on Ale and elsewhere, I am extremely
>>> hesitant to tackle the FC18 install routine.
>>>
>>> Should I install the Centos 6.3 and configure it as a desktop?
>>>
>>
>> You could, if you like torture.  :-)  Though seriously, it would work.
>> It just wouldn't be full of up-to-date software.
>
>
> I use a CentOS 6 desktop. Yeah, it is sort of painful. Unlike (my perception
> of) Mike, however, I'm not really a developer yet so my tools are pretty
> basic. Effectively I "live" in my "work" environment.
>
> The issues are not that bad, Firefox and Thunderbird work. Google has
> dropped Chrome support so no updates there. I use vim and terminal windows a
> lot, gnucash, XChat, Dropbox. There are IUS community packages for a lot of
> newer PHP and python versions. It also encourages me to remember my roots
> and be willing to look at alternative actions.
>
> If you want to work *with* Linux, use *buntu. If you want to work *on*
> Linux, use CentOS.
>
> Leam
>
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