[ale] WAY OT: Remembering a book

Jim Kinney jim.kinney at gmail.com
Wed May 1 11:04:49 EDT 2013 

+1 that Heinlein didn't see Starship troopers. I almost walked out of the
theater.


On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Lightner, Jeff <JLightner at water.com> wrote:

> I'm old enough that when I first read them there were only the Trilogy and
> no tie in books.
>
> I loved the Robots books.   Asimov wrote very well but had a big ego
> (which he freely admitted himself) which  came clear through his essays,
> forewards and whatnot.
>
> The movie "I, Robot" bore little resemblance to any of Asimov's books
> including the one of that title but was a good movie despite that.   It did
> at least seem clear that whoever scripted it tried to tie it into Asimov's
> ideas about robotics.
>
> Starship Troopers and the few other movies based on Heinlein books are
> abominations and I'm glad Robert wasn't around to see them.
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of Boris
> Borisov
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 4:54 PM
> To: mhw at wittsend.com; Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> Subject: Re: [ale] WAY OT: Remembering a book
>
> I'm afraid would not have the time to go over these books again. Some of
> the parts used to read over and over again. Loved it.
>
> On 5/1/13, Michael H. Warfield <mhw at wittsend.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2013-04-30 at 13:57 -0400, Jim Kinney wrote:
> >> Asimov foundation trilogy.
> >
> >> Its been expanded to 6 books.
> >
> > Well, sort of.
> >
> > He fused a lot of them into an entire history of the Foundation
> > Universe, all the way from the "Robot Novels" and "I Robot" (and
> > possibly "The Positronic Man") through "The Currents of Space" and the
> > "Empire Series" to "Prelude to Foundation" and "Forward the Foundation"
> > as prequels into the original trilogy and then continuing on after the
> > Trilogy ended with "Foundation and Earth" where we end with Daneel,
> > one of the robots from the Robot Novels who has been manipulating
> > human history for thousands of years (I hope I'm not providing a
> spoiler).
> >
> > It's not clear if he tied Nemesis into the whole Empire and Foundation
> > series.  In the author's forward, he says that Nemesis "is not part of
> > the Foundation Series, the Robot Series, of the Empire Series.  It
> > stands independently."  But, then he goes on to write "Of course, I
> > might someday write another novel tying this one into the others..."
> > (which is what he did to merge the other series together).
> > It's not clear to me if Nemesis is part of the Foundation Universe or
> > not.
> >
> > That's not including "Foundations Triumph" by David Brin, "Foundation
> > and Chaos" by Greg Bear, and "Foundation's Fear" by Gregory Benford,
> > the "Second Foundation Trilogy" authorized by Asimov's estate.  You
> > could say it's been expanded way beyond the 6 books of the "Foundation
> Series"
> > itself.
> >
> > Wikipedia has a decent article on the Foundation Series and timeline
> > here:
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_series
> >
> > "If all works are included, in total, there are fourteen novels and
> > dozens of short stories written by Asimov, and seven novels written by
> > other authors after his death, expanding the time spanned in the
> > original trilogy (roughly 550 years) by more than twenty thousand
> > years."
> >
> > Wikipedia mentions that "Nemesis" is considered by some to be part of
> > the series (/me raises hand) but it's not clear to me if and where
> > there are hard tie-ins to other books in the series.  It may be just a
> > loose association.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Mike
> >
> >> On Apr 30, 2013 1:48 PM, "Robert L. Harris"
> >> <robert.l.harris at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Ever try to think of a book you read 20+ years ago that you can't
> >> > remember the author or title?
> >> >
> >> > For a couple weeks I've been trying to remember the name/title of a
> >> > book I must have read in college or high school.  It was about a
> >> > society that split in two, one high tech and one low tech concerned
> >> > with the mind.
> >> > The
> >> > low tech disappeared and they left a hint (I believe) they could be
> >> > found at the other end of the universe.
> >> >
> >> > Not sure why I want to find it but I can't get the bloody thing out
> >> > of my head until I find it.
> >> >
> >> > Robert
> >> >
> >> >
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> >> > --------
> >> > Robert L. Harris
> >> >
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