[ale] WAY OT: Remembering a book

Wed May 1 08:31:08 EDT 2013

I'm old enough that when I first read them there were only the Trilogy and no tie in books.

I loved the Robots books.   Asimov wrote very well but had a big ego (which he freely admitted himself) which  came clear through his essays, forewards and whatnot.

The movie "I, Robot" bore little resemblance to any of Asimov's books including the one of that title but was a good movie despite that.   It did at least seem clear that whoever scripted it tried to tie it into Asimov's ideas about robotics.

Starship Troopers and the few other movies based on Heinlein books are abominations and I'm glad Robert wasn't around to see them.

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From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of Boris Borisov
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Subject: Re: [ale] WAY OT: Remembering a book

I'm afraid would not have the time to go over these books again. Some of the parts used to read over and over again. Loved it.

On 5/1/13, Michael H. Warfield <mhw at wittsend.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-04-30 at 13:57 -0400, Jim Kinney wrote:
>> Asimov foundation trilogy.
>
>> Its been expanded to 6 books.
>
> Well, sort of.
>
> He fused a lot of them into an entire history of the Foundation
> Universe, all the way from the "Robot Novels" and "I Robot" (and
> possibly "The Positronic Man") through "The Currents of Space" and the
> "Empire Series" to "Prelude to Foundation" and "Forward the Foundation"
> as prequels into the original trilogy and then continuing on after the
> Trilogy ended with "Foundation and Earth" where we end with Daneel,
> one of the robots from the Robot Novels who has been manipulating
> human history for thousands of years (I hope I'm not providing a spoiler).
>
> It's not clear if he tied Nemesis into the whole Empire and Foundation
> series.  In the author's forward, he says that Nemesis "is not part of
> the Foundation Series, the Robot Series, of the Empire Series.  It
> stands independently."  But, then he goes on to write "Of course, I
> might someday write another novel tying this one into the others..."
> (which is what he did to merge the other series together).
> It's not clear to me if Nemesis is part of the Foundation Universe or
> not.
>
> That's not including "Foundations Triumph" by David Brin, "Foundation
> and Chaos" by Greg Bear, and "Foundation's Fear" by Gregory Benford,
> the "Second Foundation Trilogy" authorized by Asimov's estate.  You
> could say it's been expanded way beyond the 6 books of the "Foundation Series"
> itself.
>
> Wikipedia has a decent article on the Foundation Series and timeline
> here:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_series
>
> "If all works are included, in total, there are fourteen novels and
> dozens of short stories written by Asimov, and seven novels written by
> other authors after his death, expanding the time spanned in the
> original trilogy (roughly 550 years) by more than twenty thousand
> years."
>
> Wikipedia mentions that "Nemesis" is considered by some to be part of
> the series (/me raises hand) but it's not clear to me if and where
> there are hard tie-ins to other books in the series.  It may be just a
> loose association.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
>> On Apr 30, 2013 1:48 PM, "Robert L. Harris"
>> <robert.l.harris at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Ever try to think of a book you read 20+ years ago that you can't
>> > remember the author or title?
>> >
>> > For a couple weeks I've been trying to remember the name/title of a
>> > book I must have read in college or high school.  It was about a
>> > society that split in two, one high tech and one low tech concerned
>> > with the mind.
>> > The
>> > low tech disappeared and they left a hint (I believe) they could be
>> > found at the other end of the universe.
>> >
>> > Not sure why I want to find it but I can't get the bloody thing out
>> > of my head until I find it.
>> >
>> > Robert
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > :wq!
>> > -------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > --------
>> > Robert L. Harris
>> >
>> > DISCLAIMER:
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