[ale] Why should I choose Citrix over Linux Server with M$ virtual server?

[James Taylor]

XenApp is set up on your equipment. It's an application based on Xenserver.
The difference between XenApp and a Citrix farm is that the the XenApp is a virtual application server. It is providing the apps rather than a full desktop. In the case where you have desktops, it delivers the app on demand.  If not, you can run the app as a remote session on the server.  XenApps can be distributed across servers and moved about in a XenServer cluster as needed.
XenDesktop is more equivalent to a Citrix farm, but it provides better resource utilization and access.

You can try any of this stuff out for free if you want to play with it.

<disclaimer> I work with a Citrix partner, so I may be just a tad biased..</disclaimer>

-jt


 

James Taylor
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>>> Sergio Chaves <sergio.chaves at gmail.com> 3/27/2013   08:06 AM >>> 
James,

Thanks for the reply.

You perfectly described our setup.
I read about XenApp and it does seem like a good alternative.
What was not clear from the Citrix Website is if XenApp is deployed
locally or in a cloud.

Now, the stupid question(s):
With 400 plus simultaneous users, how would XenApp differs from a
regular "Citrix Farm" for load balancing?
In my mind, just like M$ products are developed/deployed with certain
"defficiencies", the Citrix products would vary in functionality but
have the same basic issues. Am I wrong in assuming that position?

Is there anywhere I can get a benchmark comparison from a reputable
source between the two so I can start to build a case to present to
the powers to be?

Sergio


On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 4:36 PM, James Taylor
<James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com> wrote:
> Based on your description, it sounds like you are using what is basically an enhance terminal server running a windows client server oracle app, with citrix services handling load balancing.
> That being the case, you would still need virtual windows sessions, so you would probably need to have some way to distribute the load.  Given that you are already a citrix customer, it might be a better option to look into the Citrix XenApp solution. It is equivalent to VMware view, but I think it is less pricey, and you are already a customer, so you could probably get upgrade pricing.
> Plus, no windows servers required, just virtual workstations.
> -jt
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>
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> James Taylor
> 678-697-9420
> james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
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>>>> Sergio Chaves <sergio.chaves at gmail.com> 3/26/2013   03:48 PM >>>
> All,
>
> First, the disclaimer: I worked with Citrix before on the 90s but
> knows nothing about on how it works.
>
> At my current job, we use WYSE terminals to connect to an Oracle 10g
> db running on Unix
> Our environment, you guessed, has a Citrix Farm which works well. The
> "thing" is that when it does not work so well, we are at the mercy of
> the Citrix Guru's, which usually translates into an hour or two of
> downtime x 400 people.
> Primary issue, load balance. Google has an infinite amount of pages on
> the subject and how hard to have it properly configured.
> So, here is the question:
> Would it be better to have Linux servers with SAMBA doing the AD and
> having virtual instances of M$ Servers connecting to it?
> I cannot, for the life of me see Citrix having the advantage on a
> setup like the one described above.
>
> Can someone put some sense into it :-)
>
> Thanks
>
> Sergio
> .
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