[ale] rpm's src vs binary and the confusion

Fri Jun 7 10:29:42 EDT 2013

Shouldn't that script file just be part of your SOURCE and then processed
during make to be a plain copy to final location , listed in %files?

On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Narahari 'n' Savitha <savithari at gmail.com>wrote:

> Ok, Thank you to all of you.  I created my .rpm and tried it out.  A few
> questions still linger.  Kindly help.
>
> My package is not a relocatable package, at least thats what the tool
> tells me.  What am I doing wrong that is making it Non-Relocatable ?
> Here is the spec file.
> http://pastebin.com/rFcE7Y05
>
> Also please take a look at this link.
>
>
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7813436/rpmbuild-using-script-files-contained-in-the-package-in-pre-script
>
> In this the person who has replied says that Makeself allows you to create
> a self installable executable which is base64encoded.  But the question is
> how do you put a script (aka .sh file) which is a part of the .rpm file  in
> the
>
> %pre section.
>
> If I want to put Source2:narahari.sh how do you make it available %pre as
> in
>
> %pre -f narahari.sh
>
> Thank You
> -Narahari
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 12:04 AM, Jeff Hubbs <jhubbslist at att.net> wrote:
>
>>  Meh.  Admins rotate in and out so much these days and documenting
>> things is so unheard of...don't get me started.  Suffice it to say that no
>> one will curse your name because no one will remember it. :)
>>
>> A few years ago I was trying to address a very unhealthy
>> Tomcat-behind-Apache platform that was using some very old version of
>> Tomcat that was so unstable that it was end-of-lifed and a whole new branch
>> of the tree emerged with a "there be dragons" sign left at the old. :)
>>
>> The Apache people, over and over again, would say DON'T use your distro's
>> package manager...just DON'T!!!  And sure enough, on RH and -alikes, I
>> could see why at the time.  Whoever managed the Gentoo ebuild was very
>> meticulous and it *would* work perfectly, but you could see that a "Tomcat
>> way" and a "Gentoo way" of doing and placing things was being very
>> carefully reconciled.  Just the same, if you eschewed the Tomcat ebuild
>> under Gentoo and just took the Tomcat distribution as the Apache people
>> intended, there wasn't any interference and it would work just fine also,
>> provided you'd laid in the dependencies by hand via Portage.
>>
>> On 6/4/13 8:40 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
>>
>> +1e^infinity
>> KISS principle keeps later admins from putting a price on your head.
>> On Jun 4, 2013 8:21 PM, "Scott McBrien" <smcbrien at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  I would attempt to dissuade you from using a delta rpm.  With deltas,
>>> you end up being really really concerned with versions.  So after your
>>> first delta gets applied, if you have another update, you make a delta of
>>> the delta, which means if there's a machine with the vanilla rpm out there
>>> and you apply delta2 on it, things devolve into madness quite quickly.
>>>  Does a regular RPM contain more stuff and take up more space?  Sure.  But
>>> if an RPM is 10MB or 100MB, who really cares.  The simpler you keep your
>>> packages, the more independent you keep your packages the less likely that
>>> you get into a situation you can't, or is extremely difficult, to reverse.
>>>
>>>  If you choose to ignore my advice, you should use not only the package
>>> name, but also the version in your Requires for your drpm, that should keep
>>> you from applying a drpm to a box that is not at the appropriate version to
>>> accept the delta successfully.
>>>
>>>  But seriously, keep it simple, it will improve your life in the long
>>> run, and admins who follow you will praise your good works rather than
>>> spitting and cursing at the mention of your name.
>>>
>>>  -Scott
>>>
>>> On Jun 4, 2013, at 7:23 PM, "Narahari 'n' Savitha" <savithari at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   I built my vanilla Tomcat rpm and the %install section has
>>>
>>>  mkdir -p $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/opt/
>>> cp -R /home/virtual/rpmbuild/BUILD/apache-tomcat-7.0.37
>>> $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/opt
>>>
>>>  I also built the delta.rpm and I am in the process of tinkering the
>>> %install section for that.
>>> What I would like to do is
>>>
>>>  a. check if apache-tomcat-7.0.37-vanilla is installed (this I can do
>>> in the Requires section of the preamble, I presume the name is the name of
>>> the rpm package)
>>> b. enquire the rpm tool as to where the package
>>> apache-tomcat-7.0.37-vanilla is installed ? not sure how to do this.
>>> c. cd to the location the apache-tomcat-7.0.37-vanilla is installed  and
>>> backup a few files.
>>> d. then do a cp -r from the BUILD folder to the target folder.
>>>
>>>  Where should I put the code for all this ?  I presume the %install
>>> section ?
>>> What all heavy lifting can I or should I do in the %install section and
>>> is using macros a requirement or a good thing to do kind of a thing ?
>>>
>>>  Kindly help.
>>>
>>>  -Narahari
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Scott Plante <splante at insightsys.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>>  "Also, tomcat is not really built as in gcc or cc or whatever aka no
>>>> make or configure."
>>>>
>>>>  Mostly true, however there is an optional native part, found in the
>>>> "[tomcat-root]/bin/commons-daemon-native.tar.gz" file. If you're creating a
>>>> Tomcat binary RPM it would be a good idea to compile this, as it allows you
>>>> to have Tomcat listen on port 80/443 (or a port <1024) directly without
>>>> running Tomcat as root. You don't need this if you're running Tomcat behind
>>>> Apache HTTP, but for example WebRTC won't work proxying through ajp.
>>>>
>>>>  Scott
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From: *"Narahari 'n' Savitha" <savithari at gmail.com>
>>>> *To: *"Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!" <ale at ale.org>
>>>> *Sent: *Sunday, June 2, 2013 10:02:11 PM
>>>> *Subject: *[ale] rpm's src vs binary and the confusion
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      Friends:
>>>>
>>>>  I am building an rpm for Apache Tomcat version 7.0.37.
>>>>
>>>>  Sorry to ask a lame question but what is the diff between src rpm and
>>>> regular rpm ?
>>>>  (dont flame, I know I have read it but it confuses me when I am
>>>> building)
>>>>
>>>>  Also, tomcat is not really built as in gcc or cc or whatever aka no
>>>> make or configure.
>>>>
>>>>  So in the install section what should I be really doing ?
>>>>  Spec file is here.
>>>>
>>>> http://pastebin.com/f6P64tSQ
>>>>
>>>>  Also, if I have a custom name for the rpm I am building, what macros
>>>> or env variables are available in the %install section ?
>>>>
>>>>  Regards,
>>>>  -Narahari
>>>>
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