[ale] totally OT: hobbies

Edward Holcroft eholcroft at mkainc.com
Wed Jul 10 08:20:33 EDT 2013


Well if "they're" watching" let's give 'em something to watch. Remember Jam
Echelon day? http://www.thing.net/~rdom/ecd/jam.html

It seems like the great unwashed is suddenly getting their panties in a wad
over stuff that we've been telling them has been going on for a very, very
long time. ...

I'm not sure if the attempt at jamming Echelon ever actually worked, but
I'm more than happy to add a list of trigger words to my e-mail signature
... except, the link to the list of trigger words seems to have been
removed ... hmmmm ....

Maybe it's time to resurrect it.

ed


On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Ron Frazier (ALE) <
atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com> wrote:

> Yes, but, as far as I know, not being in the spook community, they're not
> just vacuuming up every byte from every public server on the planet.  That
> would be prohibitively expensive and inefficient even for the government.
>  As I understand it, they've placed taps at key intersections of the data
> flow of the internet, like gmail, verizon, at&t, comcast, etc.  That way,
> they get 90% of the info they're interested in for 1/100 of the trouble and
> money.
>
> So, since this message went through gmail, it probably already resides on
> an NSA hard drive.  And, with all those juicy words, it may have been
> "flagged" for further attention.  To each his own, but, I'm not sure poking
> the sleeping dragon is the best idea.  They really do have a critical
> mission to search for terrorists, with due process.  I appreciate that
> they're doing that.  But, not only that, I remember receiving an official
> letter from the FCC once that I wasn't expecting.  It was actually just a
> routine notice regarding my ham radio license.  But, just getting it was
> unnerving.  In general, the less communications I get from the govt., the
> better.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> Richard Bronosky <richard at bronosky.com> wrote:
>
> >This email list is archived on the ale site. No need for conspiracy
> >theories. The data is public.
> >On Jul 9, 2013 10:41 AM, "Ron Frazier (ALE)" <
> >atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com> wrote:
> >
> >> **
> >> Remember the scene in the movie "The Core".  Two government agents
> >come
> >> into a bar to escort the geologist to Washington after he discovers
> >the
> >> world is going to end.  He says "What if I say no?"  They say "Well,
> >we
> >> have no sense of humor ... AND we're armed."
> >>
> >> You can BET they have a tap on the gmail data stream, and their bot
> >has
> >> probably cataloged this message thread.  Actually, I heard something
> >on the
> >> Tech News Today podcast about Google planning to sell your email
> >contacts
> >> anyway, so who needs to tap it?
> >>
> >> Ron
> >>
> >>
> >> On 7/9/2013 8:18 AM, Richard Bronosky wrote:
> >>
> >> Wow, you got me! I started to feel scared just having this email on
> >my
> >> phone.
> >> On Jul 8, 2013 11:39 PM, "Doug Hall" <doughalldev at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hobbies?
> >>>
> >>>  Singing in the church choir
> >>>  Gardening (Well, that's sort of a forced hobby, recently. My front
> >yard
> >>> is eroding due to a lack of grass.)
> >>> Spouting my conservative agenda on Facebook
> >>> High explosives
> >>> Biotoxins. (I'm thinking of combining these two.)
> >>> Sending anthrax to deserving members of Congress.
> >>>  Planting pipe bombs in Mosques.
> >>> Pranking the Government into thinking I'm a terrorist.
> >>>
> >>>  Gotcha! ;-) Incidentally, if the government actually does read this
> >and
> >>> does NOT have a sense of humor, please be a character witness in my
> >trial!
> >>>
> >>>  Doug
> >>>
> >>>
> >> --
> >>
> >> (PS - If you email me and don't get a quick response, you might want
> >to
> >> call on the phone.  I get about 300 emails per day from alternate
> >energy
> >> mailing lists and such.  I don't always see new email messages very
> >quickly.)
> >>
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> >> linuxdude AT techstarship.com
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> quickly.)
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