[ale] OT fyi EFF petition to stop NSA spying

Thu Aug 1 14:14:34 EDT 2013

The NSA fully embraced using Linux a long time ago. It was their need that
lead to the development of the selinux kernel patch that is used to lock
out users from various areas of the system.

which begs the question: just _how_ did a contractor get access when NSA is
supposed to be using selinux internally and should NOT be using contractors
for "all access" positions?

Everyone in IT (Linux at least) has been aware of the ability to capture
nearly everything done by everyone for a very long time. The "shock" factor
is for the media and general public and uninformed congress critters what
capabilities exist and how thin the line is between "anti-terrorism" and
<name your worst fear population control/enforcement/spying method>.

<soapbox>
It's not going to get better until it gets much, much worse. Until congress
critters are in the spotlight accused of misplaced loyalties based on
meta-data inferences, the data collection will continue unabated. And even
that event may come too late to avoid a total erosion of trust that anyone
in power gives a shit about the rest of us.
</soapbox>

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On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Ron Frazier (ALE) <
atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com> wrote:

> It keeps getting worse.  Steve Gibson mentioned this article in his recent
> Security Now Podcast
>
>
> http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/31/nsa-top-secret-program-online-data
>
> Headline: XKeyscore: NSA tool collects 'nearly everything a user does on
> the internet'
>
> Steve says they use Linux clusters to spy on us, but I didn't see that in
> this article by searching for the word linux.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> Charles Shapiro <hooterpincher at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >And if you become a member of EFF, you get Stickers!
> >
> >I 'specially like the "I do not consent to the search of this device"
> >one.
> >
> >-- CHS
> >
> >
> >
> >On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 2:50 AM, Bob Toxen
> ><transam at verysecurelinux.com>wrote:
> >
> >> I encourage everyone to make a donation to
> >>
> >>   http://eff.org
> >>
> >> if you want to stop the criminal violation of Unconstitutional spying
> >> on YOU by our government.
> >>
> >> I'll be making another donation!
> >>
> >> Bob Toxen
> >> bob at verysecurelinux.com               [Please use for email to me]
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> >> "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
> >> them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where
> >> the shadows lie...and the Eye is everwatching"
> >> -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh with ... Bob
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 12:01:27PM -0400, Michael Trausch wrote:
> >> > You can use Tor for browsing safely and an OpenVPN server to give
> >> yourself safe remote access to your home network. Then you're covered
> >> everywhere you go, at the cost of bouncing all connections through
> >your
> >> home network.
> >> >
> >> > You can also do the same with IPsec combined with creative routing.
> >> >
> >> > Sent from my iPhone
> >> >
> >> > On Jul 31, 2013, at 11:21 AM, "Ron Frazier (ALE)" <
> >> atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi all,
> >> > >
> >> > > I know this topic has been discussed here, but I don't remember
> >how
> >> much specific data has been shared.  (I know, I shared some of it
> >myself.)
> >>  Anyway, I thought I'd pass this along.
> >> > >
> >> > > I don't know how much you've been following the NSA spying on
> >citizens
> >> news.  I'm pretty upset that our own government is violating several
> >of our
> >> constitutional rights by spying on it's own citizens, recording the
> >data
> >> about every phone call we make, and sucking up every email and web
> >browsing
> >> action that we do that they can.  The Electronic Frontier Foundation
> >(EFF)
> >> has lots of info on it, and is a major player in trying to hold the
> >govt
> >> accountable.  They have an electronic petition that half a million
> >people
> >> have signed to try to put a stop to this unconstitutional spying.  I
> >> thought you'd like to know about it.
> >> > >
> >> > > https://optin.stopwatching.us/?r=eff#  -  this is the petition
> >> > >
> >> > > https://www.eff.org/  -  the EFF website
> >> > >
> >> > > https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying  -  EFF page about NSA spying
> >> > >
> >> > > I'm pondering ways to VPN and / or encrypt everything I do, at
> >least
> >> to the point that I can.  In many cases, if the party on the other
> >end of
> >> the communications isn't encrypting, there's not much you can do.
> >> > >
> >> > > Sincerely,
> >> > >
> >> > > Ron
> >> > >
> >> > >
>
>
>
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