[ale] snarky use of RedHat - heh, heh

Tue Oct 30 13:43:39 EDT 2012

iSCSI works well for storage. Note: RHEV will take over the iSCSI
share and make it a PV to build LVs from for the actual vm images. It
does NOT do a file-based version that I can see. Didn't need those
.iso files anyway... grr...

the iSCSI host does not have to be RHEL. The REVM will manage the LVM
process directly so the base OS on the storage doesn't need to even
support LVM.

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Scott McBrien <smcbrien at gmail.com> wrote:
> RHEV-H is the hypervisor, and you do need a RHEL box for the management
> software.  You can also use a RHEL box for the hypervisor layer.  You might
> make the choice based on the management tools you want to use to maintain
> the hypervisors or your VM pricing.
>
> You still need storage, wether that be iSCSI or Fiber Channel, which is
> presented to the hypervisor layer.
>
> -Scott
>
> On Oct 30, 2012, at 9:21 AM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I thought rhev-h was the hypervisor. I have one of those plu a manager box
> and a storage server with iscsi. Plus the requisite IPA server.only the
> manager and hypervisor are rhel. Others are centos. Stack supports adding
> generic kvm server stacks as virt hosts as long as ovurt tools are
> installed.
>
> On Oct 30, 2012 8:55 AM, "Scott McBrien" <smcbrien at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Allen,
>>
>> RHEV can either use a RHEL hypervisor (which you pay your normal pricing
>> for RHEL) or a more appliance-y RHEL based distro called RHEV-H which has
>> its own pricing.
>>
>> If you're interested in evaluating RHEV, it might be worth while to take
>> the RH318 training class.  I see a lot of people check it out that way.
>>
>> -Scott
>>
>> On Oct 29, 2012, at 11:59 PM, "Beddingfield, Allen" <allen at ua.edu> wrote:
>>
>> > So what does it end up approximately costing you per-host?  Our cost
>> > per-physical host for RHEL is higher than our cost for VMware Enterprise
>> > Plus on a 4 socket server :)
>> > If we were going that route, I would probably do KVM on SUSE SLES with
>> > the libvirt tools or Citrix XenServer, since we already have both of those
>> > in house.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Allen Beddingfield
>> > Systems Engineer
>> > The University of Alabama
>> > ________________________________
>> > From: ale-bounces at ale.org [ale-bounces at ale.org] on behalf of Jim Kinney
>> > [jim.kinney at gmail.com]
>> > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 9:54 PM
>> > To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
>> > Subject: Re: [ale] snarky use of RedHat - heh, heh
>> >
>> >
>> > RHEL is a different pricing structure than VMWare. Vmware has limits per
>> > tier on cpu sockets but not redhat.
>> > Virt stuff is all gpl from rh. Manager will be in Centos once no longer
>> > beta. Use licensees for high profile stuff and centos for others.
>> >
>> > On Oct 29, 2012 9:19 PM, "Beddingfield, Allen"
>> > <allen at ua.edu<mailto:allen at ua.edu>> wrote:
>> > While I do not doubt that VMware has valid reasons to be quaking in
>> > their boots, I'm not sure that Redhat would be the cause.  From my
>> > experience, they aren't much less expensive than VMware :)  Of course, my
>> > perspective may be a bit skewed. I am in higher-ed, where everything is
>> > influenced by how large the academic discount will be.  Redhat's academic
>> > discounts are small compared with those of their competitors.  It would
>> > probably work out more expensive for us to switch to RHEV.
>> > Allen B.
>> > --
>> > Allen Beddingfield
>> > Systems Engineer
>> > The University of Alabama
>> >
>> > ________________________________________
>> > From: ale-bounces at ale.org<mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org>
>> > [ale-bounces at ale.org<mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org>] on behalf of Jim Kinney
>> > [jim.kinney at gmail.com<mailto:jim.kinney at gmail.com>]
>> > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 5:25 PM
>> > To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
>> > Subject: [ale] snarky use of RedHat - heh, heh
>> >
>> > for those that have known me for a while, my loathing of all things
>> > Microsoft is legendary. I saw the light of FREEDOM in 1992 and fully
>> > embraced "My True Calling" in 1997. But sometimes people pay me to
>> > kick a windwoes machine around the block.
>> >
>> > I finished a set up of RedHat Enterprise Virtualization 3.1 Beta (only
>> > slightly easier than a simultaneous root canal and colonoscopy with no
>> > pain killers.) and they have succeeded in removing the horrid
>> > requirement of needed a WindWoes system to run the RHEV Manager gui.
>> > It's a JBOSS stack and the preferred console interface is spice.
>> >
>> > It works quite well. Some bits are "different" but I am loading up a
>> > Win7 as a test OS. If that pile of crap will load, ANYTHING will run!
>> >
>> > This should have VMWare quaking in their boots.
>> >
>> > Wolf- It finally worked!
>> >
>> > --
>> > --
>> > James P. Kinney III
>> >
>> > Every time you stop a school, you will have to build a jail. What you
>> > gain at one end you lose at the other. It's like feeding a dog on his
>> > own tail. It won't fatten the dog.
>> > - Speech 11/23/1900 Mark Twain
>> >
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James P. Kinney III

Every time you stop a school, you will have to build a jail. What you
gain at one end you lose at the other. It's like feeding a dog on his
own tail. It won't fatten the dog.
- Speech 11/23/1900 Mark Twain

http://electjimkinney.org
http://heretothereideas.blogspot.com/