[ale] snarky use of RedHat - heh, heh
Lightner, Jeff
JLightner at water.com
Tue Oct 30 09:49:27 EDT 2012
Initial costs from RH may be higher but you need to be very careful with any product from EMC which owns VMWare now. Many of their customers have complained about overzealous audits.
http://www.realstorygroup.com/Blog/1511-EMC-presages-broader-rise-in-software-audits
We became a target of their audit team immediately after we let them know we were dumping EMC disk arrays in favor of Hitachi so it isn't restricted to Documentum mentioned in the article above.
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From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of Scott McBrien
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 8:51 AM
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
Subject: Re: [ale] snarky use of RedHat - heh, heh
Allen,
RHEV can either use a RHEL hypervisor (which you pay your normal pricing for RHEL) or a more appliance-y RHEL based distro called RHEV-H which has its own pricing.
If you're interested in evaluating RHEV, it might be worth while to take the RH318 training class. I see a lot of people check it out that way.
-Scott
On Oct 29, 2012, at 11:59 PM, "Beddingfield, Allen" <allen at ua.edu> wrote:
> So what does it end up approximately costing you per-host? Our cost
> per-physical host for RHEL is higher than our cost for VMware Enterprise Plus on a 4 socket server :) If we were going that route, I would probably do KVM on SUSE SLES with the libvirt tools or Citrix XenServer, since we already have both of those in house.
>
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> RHEL is a different pricing structure than VMWare. Vmware has limits per tier on cpu sockets but not redhat.
> Virt stuff is all gpl from rh. Manager will be in Centos once no longer beta. Use licensees for high profile stuff and centos for others.
>
> On Oct 29, 2012 9:19 PM, "Beddingfield, Allen" <allen at ua.edu<mailto:allen at ua.edu>> wrote:
> While I do not doubt that VMware has valid reasons to be quaking in their boots, I'm not sure that Redhat would be the cause. From my experience, they aren't much less expensive than VMware :) Of course, my perspective may be a bit skewed. I am in higher-ed, where everything is influenced by how large the academic discount will be. Redhat's academic discounts are small compared with those of their competitors. It would probably work out more expensive for us to switch to RHEV.
> Allen B.
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> Allen Beddingfield
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> for those that have known me for a while, my loathing of all things
> Microsoft is legendary. I saw the light of FREEDOM in 1992 and fully
> embraced "My True Calling" in 1997. But sometimes people pay me to
> kick a windwoes machine around the block.
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> I finished a set up of RedHat Enterprise Virtualization 3.1 Beta (only
> slightly easier than a simultaneous root canal and colonoscopy with no
> pain killers.) and they have succeeded in removing the horrid
> requirement of needed a WindWoes system to run the RHEV Manager gui.
> It's a JBOSS stack and the preferred console interface is spice.
>
> It works quite well. Some bits are "different" but I am loading up a
> Win7 as a test OS. If that pile of crap will load, ANYTHING will run!
>
> This should have VMWare quaking in their boots.
>
> Wolf- It finally worked!
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