[ale] Way OT - the death of Twinkies

Jim Kinney jim.kinney at gmail.com
Thu Nov 22 13:48:27 EST 2012


$2.5B in sales with $2.8B in preservative costs...
Yeah.
On Nov 22, 2012 1:32 PM, <simontek at gmail.com> wrote:

> You know if you have 2 billion in sales, and 2.5 billion of debt, or loss
> per year, it doesn't mean your doing well. They just mention the revenue.
> Not the profit.
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> From: "James Taylor" <James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com>
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> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 12:56:06
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> Subject: Re: [ale] Way OT - the death of Twinkies
>
> And yet they did 2 billion in  sales last year.
> That, and the strength of the brand name, I have to go with gross
> management incompetence.
> You don't liquidate a business that strong.
> -jt
>
>
>
> James Taylor
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>
>
> >>> Michael Potter <michael at potter.name> 11/22/2012   08:19 AM >>>
> Perhaps the problem is that they make things people do not want to buy.
>
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 11/20/2012 03:27 PM, Sparr wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Lightner, Jeff <JLightner at water.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Interestingly their main union had actually signed a contract and it
> was
> >>> a lesser union that went on strike.   A co-worker of mine said that he
> had
> >>> heard or read that other union did it because they decided they'd make
> more
> >>> money on unemployment than with the new contract with all the
> concessions it
> >>> had.
> >>
> >> Obvious fix for this would be to not give unemployment to them in this
> >> situation. How is "strike until the company collapses" any different
> >> from "quit voluntarily" in terms of unemployment eligibility?
> >
> >
> > The striking employees have zero decision ability as to the continuation
> of
> > the business. Only management can make that decision. The strikers want
> XYZ
> > and the managers decide to fire them all by shutting down the business.
> The
> > striking employees did not choose to become unemployed, they chose to
> > strike. Their unemployment benefit is based on their last 90 days pay
> > average. If they were striking for 89 of them, they are totally screwed.
> I'm
> > not clear if strike pay counts towards the employment pay used to
> calculate
> > unemployment rate. I do know that strike pay is (typically far) less than
> > regular working pay (but better than unemployment).
> >
> > No matter it's looked at, it's bad for far more people than benefit from
> > this.
> >
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