[ale] possible meeting topics - ODB / NTP-GPS - And more...

Wolf Halton wolf.halton at gmail.com
Sat May 26 17:39:23 EDT 2012


Another possible topic: asciidoc.

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On May 26, 2012 2:40 PM, "Michael H. Warfield" <mhw at wittsend.com> wrote:

> As long as we're on the topics of topics...
>
> Based on recent threads, discussions, and presentations...
>
> Robust DNS deployment and management or more.
>
> Grub2 themeing.
>
> Multiboot USB (related to grub2).
>
> I might be able to do one or two of these in the future (just not in the
> next couple of months).
>
> I've seen a couple of other threads in the channel that could be
> developed into good talks and presos.  We got some good stuff here,
> people!
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
> On Sat, 2012-05-26 at 13:47 -0400, Ron Frazier (ALE) wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > At the risk of opening a big can of worms for myself, I'd like to
> > mention two potential meeting topics, which, if there is interest, I'm
> > willing to do presentations on.
> >
> > The first, which I've put a fair amount of time and energy into, and
> > which I've mentioned in a previous thread, is using the OBD (onboard
> > diagnostics) system of a car in conjunction with an android tablet to
> > display virtual automotive gauges reading the car's vital statistics
> > and show the results on the screen of the tablet. This is very cool,
> > and, when I mentioned it before, there seemed to be some interest in a
> > presentation. The one potential hitch in doing such a presentation, is
> > that I cannot bring the car into the classroom. Therefore, I need an
> > OBD-II simulator, which I can plug my OBD scanner into, and thus show
> > what appears to be live data to the group. I don't know where to get
> > such a thing, so, if anyone does, please let me know.
> >
> > PS I'm not using the OBD scanner in my car as much as I was. I
> > discovered that the MPG estimates, which were one of my primary
> > purposes, are extremely inaccurate. You can put a fudge factor in the
> > program to compensate, but then you have to measure your MPG the old
> > fashioned way first.
> >
> > The 2nd thing, which I've invested several months learning about, is
> > using NTP with GPS to run my own time server. I am nowhere near an
> > expert on the topic, however, I am happy to say that I now have a (non
> > public) fully cross platform stratum 1 NTP time server running at my
> > house using GPS with PPS as a time source and providing time service
> > to the PC's on my LAN. GPS time is maintained by the DOD to within + /
> > - 100 ns of UTC as far as I know. So that's + / - .1 us. My time
> > server maintains its time to within + / - 30 us or so. The accuracy on
> > my NTP clients' side is variable, depending on the load on my wifi,
> > and runs from a few ms to a bit more.
> >
> > What I'm somewhat proud of, and what was not easy to learn how to do,
> > is that I've made everything totally cross platform. The NTP server
> > runs and reads the GPS and serves time whether it's booted into
> > Windows or Linux, using a different software stack, I might add, but
> > still NTP. (Sorry Mac people, I don't have a Mac.) Also, the clients
> > access the server whether they are booted into Windows or Linux. Not
> > only that, the server may boot on either of two wifi routers I have,
> > using two different wifi adapters, and everything still works. That
> > presents problems because the server gets different IP addresses from
> > the different routers. Getting all these various permutations to work
> > was very complicated and tedious.
> >
> > As with the OBD stuff, the hitch is caused by the classroom. There is
> > no way to get GPS signals in there. So, I need a GPS simulator. If
> > anyone knows how to do that, please let me know.
> >
> > I did have a thought along those lines. Rather than simulating the
> > radio waves the GPS device receives, we could simulate it's output.
> > The NMEA output of a GPS is nothing but a bunch of ascii text on a
> > serial communications port coming in at typically 9600 baud. The text
> > includes coded information strings which specify things like time,
> > latitude, longitude, data for satellites being tracked, etc. Suppose
> > we were to simply capture all the output from the GPS for a few days
> > into a file. If we could create a virtual com port, then we could dump
> > the contents of that file into the virtual com port at 9600 baud. The
> > NTP program could read the virtual com port, and it would think it's
> > attached to a GPS. That could serve as an independent simulated time
> > source.
> >
> > I see two potential problems. First, the PPS (Pulse Per Second) pulses
> > would not be appearing at the DCD line of the virtual com port, and
> > therefore, the PPS functionality of NTP would be dormant. Second, the
> > time stamps in the recorded data stream would not agree with the rest
> > of the world. So, if we let the NTP server communicate with any
> > servers in the outside world, it might mark the GPS as a falseticker
> > and ignore it.
> >
> > Please let me know what you guys think of these topics as
> > presentations, and how we might be able to arrange the technology so
> > it will work in the classroom. If anyone wants to collaborate with me
> > on a joint presentation, I'd be glad to have the help.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Ron
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Sent from my Android Acer A500 tablet with bluetooth keyboard and K-9
> Mail.
> > Please excuse my potential brevity.
> >
> > (To whom it may concern. My email address has changed. Replying to former
> > messages prior to 03/31/12 with my personal address will go to the wrong
> > address. Please send all personal correspondence to the new address.)
> >
> > (PS - If you email me and don't get a quick response, you might want to
> > call on the phone. I get about 300 emails per day from alternate energy
> > mailing lists and such. I don't always see new email messages very
> quickly.)
> >
> > Ron Frazier
> > 770-205-9422 (O) Leave a message.
> > linuxdude AT techstarship.com
> >
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