[ale] Hacking Your Smartphone ( next Thursday's talk)
dude-aaron-omy
aaron at pd.org
Fri Feb 10 16:22:07 EST 2012
Hey Richard!
Regular location for ALE Central Third Thursday meetings is
Emory Law School / Gambrel Hall, usually in room 1C.
I'll get notice posted for next Thursday's Hacking Your Smart Phone
talk shortly. I just received the presentation synopsis this afternoon,
probably because I finally remembered to badger Charles for it
this morning.
peace
aaron
On 2012/02/10, at 14:33 , Richard Bronosky wrote:
> I want to make sure I don't missed Thursday's talk. I'm not sure when
> and where the meeting is and when folks meet up in advance. (I looked
> at http://ale.org/ and found "directions" but so much of that site is
> out of date, I don't trust it... and there is not time info anyway.)
>
> When, where... and is there and prep that we should do (download)
> before we come for this talk?
>
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Charles Shapiro
> <hooterpincher at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ooh, furthermore according to slashdot, UEFI is gonna be mandatory
>> and
>> non-configurable on WOA devices. So if you buy one, you will never
>> be
>> able to put another OS on it or use it with anything but Microsoft's
>> own software. If Microsoft loses interest or you get a new one, your
>> only choices will be to disassemble the old one and use what
>> components aren't locked up by the software or throw it away.
>>
>> I suspect that this is mostly Bad News for M$. Seems like they're
>> trying to march off Leading the Market in a direction that it won't
>> go. Like the IBM PS/2 debacle. Quite a contrast to HTC's policy
>> (basically, "Do what you Want, it's your device" (
>> http://htcdev.com/bootloader ) )
>>
>> -- CHS
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> can we vote on where to apply the tar, feathers and fence rail? I
>>> was
>>> thinking to use the fence rail to pack the tar and feathers where
>>> his head
>>> usually is.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Charles Shapiro <hooterpincher at gmail.com
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Looks like the choice for open and free smartphones is gonna be
>>>> Android and . . . Android. Microsoft's Steven Sinofsky ( prez of
>>>> Microsoft's Windows division,
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Sinofsky ), has this to say
>>>> about
>>>> Windows on smartphones (aka Windows 8 on ARM, or WOA ):
>>>>
>>>> WOA does not support running, emulating, or porting existing x86/64
>>>> desktop apps. Code that uses only system or OS services from
>>>> WinRT can
>>>> be used within an app and distributed through the Windows Store for
>>>> both WOA and x86/64. Consumers obtain all [WOA] software, including
>>>> device drivers, through the Windows Store and Microsoft Update or
>>>> Windows Update.
>>>>
>>>> In short, if you want to develop or run your own software on your
>>>> own
>>>> portable device, Android is It. IOS or Winders won't do.
>>>> Further, if
>>>> you want to develop an application which runs on both a Windows
>>>> device
>>>> and a Windows smartphone, you're going to have to use the Microsoft
>>>> delivery system to distribute it. No in-house repositories or
>>>> distro
>>>> methods allowed!
>>>>
>>>> I for one welcome our new Steve Ballmer overlords. With tar,
>>>> feathers, and a fence rail.
>>>>
>>>> -- CHS
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> James P. Kinney III
>>>
>>> As long as the general population is passive, apathetic, diverted to
>>> consumerism or hatred of the vulnerable, then the powerful can do
>>> as they
>>> please, and those who survive will be left to contemplate the
>>> outcome.
>>> - 2011 Noam Chomsky
>>>
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