[ale] Hacking Your Smartphone ( next Thursday's talk)
Michael H. Warfield
mhw at WittsEnd.com
Fri Feb 10 15:13:33 EST 2012
On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 14:33 -0500, Richard Bronosky wrote:
> I want to make sure I don't missed Thursday's talk. I'm not sure when
> and where the meeting is and when folks meet up in advance. (I looked
> at http://ale.org/ and found "directions" but so much of that site is
> out of date, I don't trust it... and there is not time info anyway.)
Ok... Site could be a little bit better there and the events of the
last couple of months have conspired against us...
Unless otherwise announced, the meeting always starts at 7:30 at the
Emory Law School, Gambrel Hall, on the Emory campus on the third
Thursday of the month. It's generally on the lowest floor in an
auditorium and you really can't miss it. Aaron (or somebody) generally
gets signs up.
The last couple of months running, this was not true. Last month was on
the forth Thursday and in a different room and, in December, it was a
joint meeting with ALE NW. So I guess the location, time, and date are
not at all obvious on the site, having been buried thanks to two unusual
months in a row. :-P
Maybe we need a reserved link to that information.
Unless the speaker specifies otherwise, there is nothing you need to do
in advance, just show up. For the December meeting (which I ran) things
were a bit different because it was a (very successful) PGP/GPG
keysigning party where you were suppose to upload your keys to a
keyserver first. That's the exception, not the rule.
Occasionally, a few people may meet at Everybody's Pizza (or elsewhere)
in advance of the meeting but that's always arranged ad-hoc on this list
in advance (hand waving in the air) and often a bunch of us stop out at
Melton's afterwards (follow the saga from a few months ago with their
Hope that helps.
> When, where... and is there and prep that we should do (download)
> before we come for this talk?
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Charles Shapiro
> <hooterpincher at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Ooh, furthermore according to slashdot, UEFI is gonna be mandatory and
> > non-configurable on WOA devices. So if you buy one, you will never be
> > able to put another OS on it or use it with anything but Microsoft's
> > own software. If Microsoft loses interest or you get a new one, your
> > only choices will be to disassemble the old one and use what
> > components aren't locked up by the software or throw it away.
> > I suspect that this is mostly Bad News for M$. Seems like they're
> > trying to march off Leading the Market in a direction that it won't
> > go. Like the IBM PS/2 debacle. Quite a contrast to HTC's policy
> > (basically, "Do what you Want, it's your device" (
> > http://htcdev.com/bootloader ) )
> > -- CHS
> > On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> can we vote on where to apply the tar, feathers and fence rail? I was
> >> thinking to use the fence rail to pack the tar and feathers where his head
> >> usually is.
> >> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Charles Shapiro <hooterpincher at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>> Looks like the choice for open and free smartphones is gonna be
> >>> Android and . . . Android. Microsoft's Steven Sinofsky ( prez of
> >>> Microsoft's Windows division,
> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Sinofsky ), has this to say about
> >>> Windows on smartphones (aka Windows 8 on ARM, or WOA ):
> >>> WOA does not support running, emulating, or porting existing x86/64
> >>> desktop apps. Code that uses only system or OS services from WinRT can
> >>> be used within an app and distributed through the Windows Store for
> >>> both WOA and x86/64. Consumers obtain all [WOA] software, including
> >>> device drivers, through the Windows Store and Microsoft Update or
> >>> Windows Update.
> >>> In short, if you want to develop or run your own software on your own
> >>> portable device, Android is It. IOS or Winders won't do. Further, if
> >>> you want to develop an application which runs on both a Windows device
> >>> and a Windows smartphone, you're going to have to use the Microsoft
> >>> delivery system to distribute it. No in-house repositories or distro
> >>> methods allowed!
> >>> I for one welcome our new Steve Ballmer overlords. With tar,
> >>> feathers, and a fence rail.
> >>> -- CHS
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> >> --
> >> James P. Kinney III
> >> As long as the general population is passive, apathetic, diverted to
> >> consumerism or hatred of the vulnerable, then the powerful can do as they
> >> please, and those who survive will be left to contemplate the outcome.
> >> - 2011 Noam Chomsky
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