[ale] Car topic

[Ron Frazier]

David,

Be warned, you cannot sell your car to anyone who will register it in 
the 13 county area without a valid emissions inspection.  I just found 
that out recently when doing research regarding my son's truck.  It's a 
bummer, but I thought you might want to know.

http://www.cleanairforce.com/docs/What_to_Do_Before_You_Buy_2011.pdf
http://www.cleanairforce.com/docs/Seller_Beware_2011.pdf

Ron

On 9/7/2011 12:29 PM, David Hillman wrote:
> Thank you all.  Well, it looks like I would have to spend over $805 in 
> emissions repairs to get a waiver.  Replacing just the pump (sealed) 
> and the valves will still put me over the limit of what I had budgeted 
> for this mostly project vehicle.  I have another car I can use.  I 
> picked up the VW for very little money, it was supposed to be 
> something me and my friends could tinker with and use for road trips. 
>  Shedding weight, in the form of a large, heavy pump and associated 
> gear, is something I felt would make a nice improvement.  Spending 
> money to fix a problem that doesn't improve engine performance or 
> increase the capability of the car in any meaningful way goes against 
> my principles--especially, when it'll take funds away from my "fun" 
> project.  I now have no choice but to get rid of a solid vehicle that 
> is otherwise perfect for our project.  I won't get another car that 
> has been engineered this way.  If you can't beat 'em and you don't 
> want to join 'em, go in a different direction.
>
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Michael Trausch <mike at trausch.us 
> <mailto:mike at trausch.us>> wrote:
>
>     On 09/07/2011 10:56 AM, David Hillman wrote:
>     > Is there to get around the emissions requirements in Georgia?  I
>     called
>     > the tag office, but I got put on hold for an eternity.
>
>     If you show that you have spent over a certain amount of money to
>     fix a
>     problem, you can get a waiver for that year only.  The next year
>     you'll
>     have to spend the same amount in order to get a waiver again.
>
>     Modifying the programming of the ECC is *not* a task that you want to
>     take on yourself.  If you can show that the removal of the system does
>     not affect the compliance with emissions standards for that model
>     year,
>     you might be able to get away with modifying it, but you'll have
>     to get
>     to know the programming of your ECC quite intimately and if any
>     updates
>     to the firmware become available that get pushed to your computer
>     while
>     it is in the shop, you'll have to patch those updates as well.
>
>     Personally, I wouldn't even attempt it.
>
>            --- Mike
>
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