[ale] phoronix.com: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Desktop To Be Supported Longer (5 Years)

Jim Kinney jim.kinney at gmail.com
Sun Oct 23 10:34:03 EDT 2011


Heh, heh. Welcome to FLOSS! Sometimes having access to the source means
you're required to maintain your own local copy to suit your need.
A friend was using slackware 4 or 5 with netscape 2 because it did all he
wanted and would run on his pentium M laptop with 128MB ram.
Gnome 2 is going the way of the dodo bird.  Those of us who prefer it will
need to adjust or get left behind to our own devices.
Maybe gnome 3.2 will be better.
On Oct 23, 2011 9:39 AM, "Richard Faulkner" <rfaulkner at 34thprs.org> wrote:

> **
> Newer isn't better is really my point.  I agree and may well find myself
> running older versions on an older build because it fits what I want.  Once
> support has lapsed for the version (whatever it would be); that would be
> that.  On the surface I don't have an issue with that, my computer is just a
> tool -- but one I want running the way I want it running.  Not the way some
> company (or group) wants my computer running.  (Gee, that's the reason why I
> ditched Microsoft!)    RinL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From*: JD <jdp at algoloma.com <JD%20%3cjdp at algoloma.com%3e>>
> *Reply-to*: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
> *To*: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org<Atlanta%20Linux%20Enthusiasts%20%3cale at ale.org%3e>
> >
> *Subject*: Re: [ale] phoronix.com: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Desktop To Be
> Supported Longer (5 Years)
> *Date*: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 06:17:55 -0400
>
>
> On 10/22/2011 08:31 PM, Richard Faulkner wrote:
> > Interesting development and a wise move (IMHO).  But speaking from my
> > own narrow opinion, I am not a fan of Unity nor Gnome 3 nor KDE or
> > Xfce.  I'm rather partial to Gnome 2 and am quite happy with that.  I
> > liked Fedora and I really like Ubuntu but more and more find myself
> > wondering if I'm going to be custom building my own fork of Ubuntu to
> > get what I want or go to Mint.  Am I the only one thinking this way or
> > are others like me and happy with the desktop classic?  Perhaps a well
> > placed email to Canonical asking for a choice at installation for which
> > desktop we want?  Is such a thing feasible?  Perhaps not in a CD release
> > but certainly in a DVD image?
> >
>
> For the last 2 yrs, I've been loading Ubuntu Server onto my desktops,
> with only ssh, then adding the LXDE metapackage to add desktop stuff.
> This keeps the bloat down. The trade-off is that there are fewer GUI
> configuration tools in LXDE and no fancy 3D graphics effects out of the
> box. Some people might consider that a good thing.
>
> Longer desktop support from Canonical is generally good, but there's a
> downside completely outside their control. Social networks change all
> the time and break clients. Twitter did this 8+ months ago. The 10.04
> client I used to tweet and post to identi.ca simultaneously stopped
> working with twitter. The package manager version of that popular
> program in the Ubuntu repos has not been updated  probably due to
> library changes made by the developers of that program. I don't tweet
> anymore, it isn't that important to me.  To an average user, the program
> would seem broken. I couldn't find a backport or find a private PPA with
> newer versions of the program - I think they switched to gnome3
> libraries. It is easier simply not to tweet for me.  Over time, that
> same issue will happen to more and more programs that have internet
> website connectivity built-in. It is hard to maintain programs across
> too many releases, especially when the underlying libraries have major
> updates.
>
> Usually the programmers need to stay on older OSes to maintain
> compatibility, but in the FLOSS world, programmers tend to run bleeding
> edge tools and libraries, which pushes end-users to the latest and
> newest releases.  It is an upgrade treadmill.  LTS releases help, but
> they do not solve this issue.
>
> Something I've learned over time - newer isn't necessarily better.
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