[ale] Fedora 15

[The Don Lachlan]

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 03:13:07PM -0400, Rich Faulkner wrote:
> Interesting.  Yum seems to move fast enough to me and gets me out of
> trouble when gpk-application takes a dump.  That has happened more than
> once in F12 and yum has always come through.  Might be interesting to
> test two VM's side-by-side and see who wins?  Apt, dpkg or yum?
> 

Anecdotally...

I've not used yum in a few years and it had definitely improved its speed
from the walk-away-do-something-else pace it used to be but, compared to APT, it
was still slooooowwwwwwwwww.

RPM is a poor substitute for Deb and every attempt to improve upon it is
still dealing with inherent failures of the packaging system. I say this as
someone who has WRITTEN dozens, maybe approaching a hundred, of spec files
and managed them. It's easier to write than a Deb but harder on the user.

-L

> On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 15:03 -0400, Michael B. Trausch wrote:
> > On 05/25/2011 11:47 AM, Derek Atkins wrote: 
> > > I find it odd that you had such major problems so quickly, considering
> > > F15 was just released yesterday.  If you were using a F15 pre-release,
> > > well, that could certainly be the explanation of your issues.
> > > 
> > > As for the package manager being slow, I think it's just a perception
> > > thing.  It also depends on your network connection.  I've found apt to
> > > be slow at times, too.  It all depends what needs to be done, and how
> > > recently you've run it.
> > > 
> > > I plan to install F15 today once my new hard drive arrives.
> > >   
> > I installed it a couple of weeks ago, but I wound up removing it
> > yesterday because I was still having some troubles with it.  I'll
> > admit to part of my troubles being a lack of familiarity with the
> > packaging system—I feel "at home" with dpkg and APT.  I can use rpm
> > alright, but this yum thing is just slow.  It seems to take forever
> > for the "resolving dependencies" step, and I had a problem where it
> > couldn't resolve dependencies.  I've had problems with RPM-based
> > distributions failing to resolve dependencies as far back as the first
> > Red Hat (version 5.2 from the 90s) that I had ever installed.  My
> > understanding then was that it was a repository issue of some sort.
> > But the thing is that I've never had such a problem with APT: it has
> > always resolved dependencies correctly, but if a dependency is
> > unavailable, it will say "I cannot install package foo because the
> > package isn't in the repository" and trying 30 minutes later usually
> > yields success.
> > 
> >     --- Mike
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