[ale] Celebrate - Usama killed!

Mon May 2 14:15:09 EDT 2011

So we should base our perception on advertising especially when it is
clear they are neither fair nor balanced in their reporting?   Unlike
you I don't discuss things I haven't seen.   When FNN  first came on the
air I watched them for as long as I could stomach it and periodically
check them out as I did last night.   In my not so humble opinion only
someone to the right of Pat Buchannan would think them "fair and
balanced".  If folks like them that is their prerogative but pretending
they don't report from the right wing side of things is silly.  MSNBC
reports from the left wing side.   CNN at one point seemed more "fair"
and somewhat "balanced" even if left leaning but has since tried to
become FNN because so much of their audience went to FNN and failed
miserably at it.

Nowadays everything is commentary and trying to actually find news on
any of the channels is difficult.   Don't think I'm a CNN fan either.
They are sensationalist as well with so many of their anchors displaying
fake outrage over trivial issues.   They also annoy the hell out of me
for having folks like Nancy Grace on pre-judging all legal issues long
before they ever see the inside of a courtroom.   CNN pretty much lost
my respect when they jumped on the OJ Simpson bandwagon long before FNN
came into the picture.

For in depth information I go on line.  However, when big stories break
the fastest way to get somewhat credible information is still TV. 

Interestingly the first thing I saw on CNN this morning was a New York
Congressman praising Obama's actions in this and giving him the credit.
The CNN interviewer mentioned the actions of others in the
administration and this guy was quick to point out that if it had gone
wrong nobody would be talking about anyone but Obama so since it went
right Obama deserved the credit.   That guy is the most "fair and
balanced" observer I've seen in Washington in months.

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From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of Greg
Clifton
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 12:58 PM
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
Subject: Re: [ale] Celebrate - Usama killed!

Jeff,

 Nice for a channel that likes to pretend it supports conservative
values.

As I recall, the FNN tag line is "Fair AND balanced", I don't recall any
mention of conservative values ever, but then I don't watch much TV.
Sounds like you are creating a "straw man" argument.

On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Lightner, Jeff <jlightner at water.com>
wrote:

"Homicide bombers" is just plain stupid and is an attempt at a political
correctness that is unnecessary.   All bombers that kill people are
"homicide" bombers by definition and "suicide bomber" merely meant the
dumb@$$ killed himself at the same time as he killed others.  Fox
decided that somehow "suicide" meant the idiots were being "honored" by
other news networks and thereby proved themselves to be idiots instead.

Do you really suppose the people that support these idiots really give
any credence to how False News Network describes them?   No - it is
simply sensationalism masquerading as journalism.  I tried to watch FNN
last night to see how they were reporting it compared to CNN but once I
saw Geraldo taking the lead there was no way.   Every time I see
"Geraldo at Large" I can't help but think "Why the hell is he still at
large?"  This is the same guy that wrote a memoir (long before Fox hired
him) in which he claimed to sleep with every woman in the News and
Entertainment industry.    Nice for a channel that likes to pretend it
supports conservative values.

More interesting to me was that when I went to the broadcast networks
they didn't even have a scroll at the bottom of the screen indicating
the President was about to speak.   They did come on by the time he
spoke and may have had bulletins at some point before that but you'd
think they'd have had such a scroll or notice for those who were just
tuning into them.

-----Original Message-----
From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of

Damon Chesser
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 9:05 AM

To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
Subject: Re: [ale] Celebrate - Usama killed!

Astounding.  We went in three emails from Bin Laden is dead to Fox
Sucks.  What one has to do with the other is beyond me.  After having
watched the breaking news on FNN, I never once saw anybody guess on what
Mr. Obama would say, other than The President is scheduled to speak
soon.

I don't care what news source you prefer, btw.  I am merely objecting to
three emails to go from first post to political/biased/fox sucks.

I happen to LIKE the description of homicide bomber vs. suicide bomber.
I think Homicide is more honest.  Suicide implies other people died as
an after effect of the suicide.

Am I stupid?

Damon Chesser
dchesser at acsi2000.com
damon at damtek.com
-----Original Message-----
From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of
Lightner, Jeff
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 8:56 AM
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
Subject: Re: [ale] Celebrate - Usama killed!

I liked the fact that CNN refused to speculate on what the President was
going to say even when they had one source.   They waited until they had
3 sources confirming it and the President had delayed for quite a while
before they reported it.

Fox knows how to mispronounce things.  While most reasonable people
understand that "suicide bomber" simply designated that the murderer
killed himself instead of doing a remote detonation Fox decided everyone
was too stupid to understand that.   Accordingly they came up with
"homicide bombers".   They also showed how reliable a news source they
are by continuing to employ Geraldo after he claimed to be in the midst
of a battle he was 300 miles away from and called it a "mistake".   How
the heck does someone not know the difference between bullets wizzing
past their ears and NOT wizzing past their ears?

-----Original Message-----
From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of
Scott Castaline
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 12:40 AM
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
Subject: Re: [ale] Celebrate - Usama killed!

On 05/01/2011 11:02 PM, Greg Freemyer wrote:
> I'm ecstatic to say the news is reporting Usama Bin Laden has been
> killed by the USA and his dna verified!
>
> God Bless the USA!
> =====
>
I have to note though that it seemed that FOX was the only one that
spelled it with a U, while all the others were spelling it as Osama.
Doesn't matter as long as he's dead, bullet to the head from the
President's announcement.
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