[ale] OT: gas going up this weekend

Mon May 2 14:37:21 EDT 2011

On Sun, 2011-05-01 at 18:31 -0400, Richard Faulkner wrote:
> Damon...a great link!  Thanks for sharing!!  I have an interest in
> DIY-Hybrids and have been eying the XR3...

Interesting.  

I would like a natural gas car, however, there appears to be but one
public station and it is 27 miles from my house (by the airport).  This
has me puzzled.  We hold the worlds larges NG reserves (or so I thought)
and we never developed this for public consumption?  It amounts to about
$.68 /gallon to fuel your car with this.

Electric:  moves the basis of production from your car to the electric
source (nuk, coal, gas, hydro generation) and nobody has the range
(except perhaps Telsa Motors, but that is spendy and they don't support
operations out of the designed market).

All very frustrating:  right now there is no practical replacement.

Perhaps this DYI is an idea worth pursuing.
> 
> http://www.rqriley.com/xr3.htm
> Riley XR3
> 
> RinL
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Damon Chesser <dchesser at acsi2000.com>
> Reply-to: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
> Subject: Re: [ale] OT: gas going up this weekend
> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 06:46:29 -0700
> 
> And related to this is this:
> 
> http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-20044720-501465.html
> 
> http://www.popsci.com/cars/article/2011-03/shockwave-generating-wave-discs-could-replace-cars-internal-combustion-engines
> 
> This has me excited in that it would make electric cars viable.  Electric car in the vein of Diesel electric trains.  Use the shock wave to gen. electricity that run the wheel motors.
> 
> Damon Chesser
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of Greg Freemyer
> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 9:06 AM
> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> Subject: Re: [ale] OT: gas going up this weekend
> 
> You can thank the Feds for that too I think.
> 
> They put in new low sulfur rules for diesel a while back.  Apparently
> those rules caused diesel to cost more than gas.  I don't know the
> details.
> 
> OTOH, there's a new continuous combustion engine in R&D somewhere.  If
> it ever gets to market, its supposed to be much more efficient.  I
> think the truck fleet is the target market for it.
> 
> I don't remember where I read about that, but they already have
> smaller versions working in a lab somewhere.
> 
> Greg
> 
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Lightner, Jeff <jlightner at water.com> wrote:
> > What's really obscene is the price of diesel.   Not so long ago diesel
> > on average was cheaper than 87 octane gas.   Some people even bought
> > diesel cars because they were cheaper to run.   Somewhere along the line
> > the oil companies realized they could get a lot more money by raising
> > the price of diesel to be as high as premium gas.  Most people wouldn't
> > howl because they weren't smart enough to realize that was costing them
> > even if they didn't drive a diesel car.  Nearly everything you buy ends
> > up being on a diesel powered truck somewhere along the line.   (Even if
> > shipped by train it has to be transshipped from the freight depot to
> > final destination for most things that aren't being delivered to
> > manufacturing plants/mills with their own rail.)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of
> > Derek Atkins
> > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 8:24 AM
> > To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> > Subject: Re: [ale] OT: gas going up this weekend
> >
> > Tom Freeman <tfreeman at intel.digichem.net> writes:
> >
> >>> FWIW, Aviation Fuel (100LL AvGas) does still have T-E-L in it.
> >>>
> >>> -derek
> >>>
> >> Thanks for that bit. I don't indulge in private aviation, so I'm not
> >> surprised at my ignorance. Still, how much avgas is used vs.
> > automobile
> >> fuel?
> >
> > Oh, much much less.  I don't have numbers offhand, but I would guess
> > much less than 1%.
> >
> > -derek
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