[ale] .NET considered harmful

[Richard Bronosky]

I took MSFT off of my resume for the very reason of not wanting to have to
justify it to people anymore.
https://github.com/RichardBronosky/resume/blob/master/richard.paul.bronosky.resume.tex#L85

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Brian Schenken <brian.schenken at gmail.com>wrote:

> No wordsmithery could make his silly prejudice reasonable.  He may be
> looking for what you accept is a different breed, but he needs to
> figure out how to articulate it without delving into his own emotional
> bias.  Having written in  .net is not evidence of some sort of
> weakness.
>
> Yeah, there's a tremendous market for worthless certs that has
> polluted IT's and other's talent pools.  The quality of education out
> there has nothing to do with the value of any given technology.
> That's apples and oranges...
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 29, 2011, Don Lachlan
> <ale-at-ale.org at unpopularminds.org> wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 5:17 PM,  <brian.schenken at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I hate emotional evangelism like this... "dignified OS" OS's don't have
> >> dignity, they have function - purpose. "every day spent learning a
> Microsoft
> >> kitchen takes TWO days to unlearn, " Bologna. Changing languages is
> hard, it
> >> doesn't matter from what to what. That's why I try not to work on more
> than
> >> one project at a time.
> >
> > You're talking about apples when he's talking about oranges and I
> > think you completely missed his point.
> >
> > Seeing .NET on a resume triggers a "Why?" question in his head that he
> > wants answered. If it's sprinkled inside a dozen others, it's likely
> > easy to explain away - "Employer X wanted Product Y and .NET was a
> > requirement." OTOH, if's .NET is alone or in a short list of languages
> > on a resume, it's likely exactly what he's concerned about. Same issue
> > has been seen with other "easy" languages like Perl, PHP, Java, VB,
> > etc.. Nothing new there.
> >
> > But more than that, he's looking for something special. For the people
> > he's looking for, changing languages is not hard. Takes time, some
> > effort, but not hard. It's the difference between a computer scientist
> > and a programmer. Real the Joel on Software piece and it's the same
> > thing - Joel is looking for computer scientists and universities are
> > churning out programmers because there are a lot more jobs for
> > programmers than computer scientists.
> >
> >> There are times when .net is the best solution. Yep, BEST. And it's not
> just
> >> the crappy / redundant jobs, sometimes there's a really deep,
> challenging
> >> project (I'm talking working with sockets, threads, file I/O here - the
> good
> >> stuff) that would be best done with .net. There are times when fast,
> stable,
> >> perl would be better suited. On occasion you need free, and DIY - but
> some
> >> needs call for something bloaty, expensive and externally supported. The
> >
> > Sure, I could write a web browser in Perl, but "Why?" Sure, I could
> > write a mail server in PHP, but "Why?" .NET is a nice platform with
> > some great uses. Hey, if you're working in a homogenous environment,
> > Microsoft Office and Exchange and ISS are killer. But would any of
> > these be my preferred choice? Possible but unlikely.
> >
> >> If this guy were to interview me and ask me to
> >> justify it I would turn the question back on him: "Can't you think of
> any
> >> scenario where .net would be the best choice?" If he says no or gives
> some
> >> McDonalds metaphor - I think I'd say he failed the interview.
> >
> > Strawman argument. The author states there are cases where .NET is the
> > preferred choice, such as Windows Mobile 7 apps. You are full of fail.
> >
> > OTOH, if you can't justify your choice for .NET, if your answer to
> > "Why?" is "Because," you aren't the material he's looking for. You
> > don't even understand what that material is.
> >
> > -L
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