[ale] C Compiler for Linux

[The Don Lachlan]

On 06/26/2011 12:09 PM, Michael Trausch wrote:
> I use emacs in single-user mode... makes little difference on my systems
> since they are both in /usr/bin... but I have been on older unix systems
> with only vi. I know enough of it to edit basic text, but I *much*
> prefer the environment that emacs provides for programming.

If you're looking for a development environment, then you should use 
what works best for you in the language(s) you want and the group you 
want and so on. It's a personal preference that I can't argue with. Same 
as for any other user (not a pejorative).

OTOH, if someone wants to be a good sysadmin, they need to be able to 
work well in classic vi. Not vim, elvis, gvim, blah blah blah. Classic 
vi is essential. If they only want to sysadmin GNU/Linux, or sysadmin a 
single, modern distro, classic vi matters much less. But classic vi is 
universal to all *nix systems - it's always there and always works - 
can't say that about other editors.

>>>> On Jun 26, 2011 9:48 AM, "Jim Kinney" wrote:
>>>>> Hah! You left out the "TIF" (Total Intimidation Factor) of watching
>>>>> someone proficient in vim really use the environment.

 From the other side, I've watched sysadmins stammer and stutter in vi 
and it was _painful_. I just wanted to shove them aside and do whatever 
they were trying and grossly failing to do.

I get it, vi isn't for everybody. But c'mon, objectively, vi is an 
essential skill for systems work.

-L