[ale] [OT] for the space geeks on ALE

[Lightner, Jeff]

I'm so over the FUD about the evils of the health care law.  Death
panels?  We already have them - boards of people decide who is "worthy"
of receiving transplants based on people's lifestyles rather than their
need for the organs.   Rationed health care?  We already have it - HMOs
penalize doctors that don't go by their generic "best practice" for
determining what treatment you need and how long you need to stay in the
hospital.   Luckily though these institutions are protected against
being sued into oblivion for putting profits ahead of patient care by
the laws that existed.

 

In the mean time the scare tactics are used and ignore the evils the
health care law got rid of such as pre-existing condition clauses and
the practice of waiting until you made a major claim of going back and
determining you aren't eligible for the insurance due to BS history
research after taking your money for years.

 

The fact that what Obama had to spend for the last few years was to dig
us out of the huge financial meltdown that began while Bush was still in
office seems to escape people that like to pretend Obama is the
anit-christ.   They also ignore the fact that the majority of the
spending continues to be for defense (including the two wars started
under Bush) and NOT for social programs as Republicans and Libertarians
like to pretend.   

 

While I'm on the latter subject:  Social Security is not an
"entitlement" as Republican pundits try to lump it in with welfare, food
stamps and the like.  It is something we all pay into with the
understanding that we get the money back later.  I for one don't care if
Warren Buffet gets a SS check so long as he paid into during his working
year.   That was the deal that was made.   In my view SS is the only
thing we ARE "entitled" to and lumping it in with government handout
programs is an outright lie.

 

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From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of Greg
Clifton
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 3:35 PM
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
Subject: Re: [ale] [OT] for the space geeks on ALE

 

Aaron,

 

Factually wrong on BOTH counts.

 

1) The constitution specifically and intentionally provides for the
selection of our president via UN-democratic means (i.e. electoral
college majority is what counts, NOT popular vote majority). EVERY
recount of the votes showed that BUSH won the popular vote count in FL
in spite of Gore's best efforts to steal it by selectively recounting
ONLY democratic strongholds thus violating the equal protection clause
of the constitution.

 

2) Bust screwed the pooch on the debt, for sure, but what he did in 8
years including the hit taken by the 911 attack while all air traffic
was shut down for 2 weeks, Obama has doubled down on in only 2 years.
Furthermore, Bush never abrogated contract law like Obama did when he
took the stake in the auto companies from bond holders and gave them to
the UAW. More likely with Obamanomics and his thugocracy, we more likely
to have the nasty little cars that Eastern Europe used to drive around
in than anything approaching either a rocket car or flying ca in another
8 years. And that's not to even mention government rationed health care
and death panels.

 

 

On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 3:16 PM, arxaaron <arxaaron at gmail.com> wrote:

On 2011/06/08, at 12:40 , The Don Lachlan wrote:

> On 06/08/2011 11:30 AM, Pete Hardie wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:23, Jim Kinney<jim.kinney at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> AND I want a monorail rig all over metro Atlanta. With beer taps
>>> at every
>>> station. All run by tiny Linux systems. With industrial roombas
>>> cleaning
>>> everything.
>> And a rocket car - where's my rocket car?!
>
> In Al Gore's fictional presidency.

That would be in Al Gore's STOLEN presidency.
He did get the clear majority of the votes, after all.

And if we didn't have the past ten years of fascist
right wing rape of the American economy, we
probably _could_ have rocket cars.

peace
aaron


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