[ale] gnome3. I give up.

[Lightner, Jeff]

At  Atlanta Unix Users Group (AUUG) meeting last night one of the folks
was suggesting there could be an issue with KDE because it relies on QT
which was made by Troll Tech which has since been bought by Nokia.
However, this link seems to suggest that isn't a problem:

http://www.kde.org/community/whatiskde/kdefreeqtfoundation.php

 

That link was found in the following;

http://www.kde.org/community/history/qtissue.php

 

P.S. He wasn't dissing KDE - he likes it and only mentioned it as an
aside.   This was after someone complained about Ubuntu which started
the Unity discussion which led him to say most folks should use kubuntu
instead.

 

 

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From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of Jim
Kinney
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 10:53 AM
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
Subject: Re: [ale] gnome3. I give up.

 

QT is pretty kewl! The joining of python and QT is very easy and
powerful. My one regret is that QT was originally not an opensource
toolset and that led to the gnome world. Gnome had a "bigger idea" set
than KDE but because/"in spite of" it using nearly anything that runs
and a gui toolkit API (GTK looks just fine as does QT and Wx. They all
look better than anything java!) gnome is now quite a hodgepodge of code
spaghetti (gnome 3 was supposed to do some massive clean up but I think
they got lost along the way and went all tablet happy).

So far, neither KDE nor Gnome have fulfilled their big picture promise
to my satisfaction. Seamless integration of applications is a long way
off. Sharing a mouse cut-n-paste buffer is just not enough.

At one point, the gnome plan was to be able to send data to someone who
didn't have the application to read/play it and gnome was going to be
able to use the senders desktop ability to render the data into sound
and graphic bit and stream them back to the receiver regardless of their
current platform. Security was to handled by a combination of kerberos
and user tokens to allow access to the required applications for the
sole purpose of using that access for that data set only. But instead
they got bogged down making widgets that are still half finished as well
as a brand, Ximian, that used a fornicating monkey as their mascot and
inter-process communication daemon, bonobo before latching onto the C#
dotnet crap.

ADHD is truly a pandemic in the IT world and Linux-land in particular!

On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Charles Shapiro
<hooterpincher at gmail.com> wrote:

Still a big phan of KDE4 here.  And of course XFCE for that Old
Hardware.  Bloat is a relative term in today's hardware environment.

I'm really curious about what'll happen to QT after Nokia has
essentially dropped it.  I'd love to see QT become the linux desktop
interface library of choice.  I've used it on a fairly big C++ project
and really liked it.  I found the API well laid-out and featureful.

-- CHS



On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Preston Boyington
<preston.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
> David Tomaschik wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Damon Chesser <dchesser at acsi2000.com>
wrote:
>>>
>>
>>> I think we should email Linus and ask him what DE he uses, that
*must* be the correct one.  I do remember he seriously dised Gnome a few
years back because they dumbed it all down, but somehow I can't see him
using KDE4 with all that bloat. OTHO, many here like KDE4, bloat and
all.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linus-torvalds-switched-back-to-gnome.html
>>
>>
>>
>
> I believe he also uses Suse (or did when I looked it up) as his
distro.
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