[ale] "Small Guy" redundant routing

[Michael Trausch]

I have VMs running which are "untrusted" in the sense of the word that
a shared hosting environment for the services that they have is just
really not feasible.

I may just try to free up some space by moving some of the things that
can be trusted to play nicely together to a VM hosted elsewhere, such
as Linode.  But what I'd like to avoid is using something like Linode
to do routing for me.

I just want multiple routes.  That's all.  I think that the short
answer is that "I can't have them" without doing a lot of stuff to
significantly increase the liklihood of bottlenecks in unexpected
places...

On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 15:10, JD <jdp at algoloma.com> wrote:
> With "small guy" services, it is fairly easy to setup redundant network
> access with cable and DSL services.  If you combine those with a reverse
> proxy someplace in the cloud, then you can have redundant, round-robin
> load balancing for inbound connections, not just outbound redundancy
> too.  I have a friend with this setup and he's had it working for about
> a decade.
>
> These days it is possible to run 200+ services off a single public IP,
> but your reverse proxy configuration will not be trivial.
>
> The big network guys seem to think that a single IP means a single
> service. That simply isn't the case.  You can do it with subdomains
> and/or subfolders.
>
> app1.domain.com
> app2.domain.com
> app3.domain.com
>
> can all forward to different internal services. I suspect you already
> understand that. You can even use reverse proxies to share a single SSL
> cert and forward the requests to different backends inside your network.
>  A few months ago, I read how to perform SSL load balancing using a
> single IP and Apache, but it only worked with really modern browsers.
> http://www.howtoforge.com/enable-multiple-https-sites-on-one-ip-using-tls-extensions-on-debian-etch
>
> Let's see ... are there any gotcha services ... email.  Hosting multiple
> email domains on a single IP is definitely possible.
>
> Ok, so here's the thing that you asked for and I don't think you can
> have, at least not cheaply. You don't get to have much of a subnet,
> except on 1 connection and the other connection will be on a completely
> separate public address space.  Obviously, you could pay $XYZ/month to
> get what you're asking for (I didn't check prices), but why when
> $150/month will get you 2 business class connections (DSL + Cable), just
> with limited public IP space?
>
> I used to have a /29 at home through Abraxis many years ago.  I never
> used more than 2 of those IPs.  These days, I make due with a single
> public IP. Sure there are times during migrations that it would be handy
> to have another public IP, but not as often as you'd think.
>
> I'm pretty certain there are lots of people on this list who have also
> solved the same problem.
>
>
> On 04/03/2011 12:59 PM, Michael B. Trausch wrote:
>> I have been trying to find an answer to this for quite some time.
>>
>> I want a means by which to have two connections to the Internet, and the
>> ability to use my own IP address space on both (that is, I want multiple
>> routes that can reach my network, maybe one via DSL and one via cable).
>> Of course, using "small guy" Internet connectivity (because I cannot
>> afford to spend thousands and thousands of dollars per month on
>> dedicated leased lines and the like which would allow me to do route
>> announcements) I would appear to not have that option.
>>
>> Is there any sort of service out there that would fill the niche for
>> what I want?  Essentially, I'd like to be able to buy a /27 network and
>> have all of the addresses for that /27 reach me over either of my
>> connections to the Internet.
>>
>> Is it even possible to do with "small guy" services?  Or do I really
>> have to be a huge entity with tens of thousands of dollars of cash flow
>> in order to have that sort of thing?
>>
>>       --- Mike
>>
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