[ale] Trolls: patent wars and now trademark stupids

Fri May 14 11:41:38 EDT 2010

For "dumb" terminal all one has to point to for prior art is any version
of Windoze.  :-)

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From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of Bob
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Subject: Re: [ale] Trolls: patent wars and now trademark stupids

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 11:38:56AM -0400, Rev. Johnny Healey wrote:
> You guys joke, but Smuckers did actually patent the PB & J sandwich:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealed_crustless_sandwich

> They even sued someone over it.
You forgot to mention that the Patent and Trademark office cancelled the
patent after someone pointed out prior widely-known art.

Similarly, one cannot enjoy a valid trademark on a widely used name.

E.g., years ago DEC trademarked "Dumb Terminal" long after that name was
in common usage.  (Unlike patents, to claim a trademark one merely puts
a superscript "TM" after it.)  They'd never would have won a suit.

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> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com>
wrote:
> > BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
> >
> > I'm calling groklaw....
> >
> > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:54 AM, William Fragakis
<william at fragakis.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Jim, Jim, Jim. ?That was covered by my method for a Self Closing
and
> >> Opening sandwich which I have the rights for.
> >>
> >> Or, better known as SCO Sandwich.
> >>
> >> /rimshot
> >>
> >> William
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, 2010-05-13 at 09:11 -0400, Jim Kinney wrote:
> >> > Hmm. My filling for patent for hinged bread device for enclosing
> >> > general substance was granted earlier to me.
> >> >
> >> > I'll sue!!!
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 11:12 PM, William Fragakis
> >> > <william at fragakis.com> wrote:
> >> > ? ? ? ? It (the bread) is hinged on one side, which,
incidentally, I
> >> > ? ? ? ? patented
> >> > ? ? ? ? several years ago as a self closing baked good for
enclosing
> >> > ? ? ? ? protein and
> >> > ? ? ? ? protein substitutes.
> >> >
> >> > ? ? ? ? wf
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ? ? ? ? On Wed, 2010-05-12 at 18:15 -0400, Tim Watts wrote:
> >> > ? ? ? ? > On Wed, 2010-05-12 at 16:27 -0500, Preston Boyington
wrote:
> >> > ? ? ? ? > > Larry Johnson wrote:
> >> > ? ? ? ? > > > IANAL, but the word "footlong" has been in common
usage
> >> > ? ? ? ? for so long (I
> >> > ? ? ? ? > > > used to buy them at the Southeastern Fair in the
1950s,
> >> > ? ? ? ? and I"m sure
> >> > ? ? ? ? > > > they predate that) that I doubt Subway would win if
it
> >> > ? ? ? ? every went to
> >> > ? ? ? ? > > > court. ?But what small company wants to fight
Subway?
> >> > ? ? ? ? > > >
> >> > ? ? ? ? > >
> >> > ? ? ? ? > > after reading the article I believe that all sandwich
> >> > ? ? ? ? places were the
> >> > ? ? ? ? > > target and the hotdog joint was an oopsie.
> >> > ? ? ? ? > >
> >> > ? ? ? ? > > Quizno's has 'footlongs' if i remember correctly... i
> >> > ? ? ? ? suppose they got a
> >> > ? ? ? ? > > letter too.
> >> > ? ? ? ? > >
> >> > ? ? ? ? > Can someone explain to me how a hot dog is not a kind
of
> >> > ? ? ? ? sandwich?
> >> > ? ? ? ? >
> >> > ? ? ? ? >
> >> > ? ? ? ? >
> >> > ? ? ? ? > ________
> >> > ? ? ? ? > Most modern calendars mar the sweet simplicity of our
lives
> >> > ? ? ? ? by reminding
> >> > ? ? ? ? > us that each day that passes is the anniversary of some
> >> > ? ? ? ? perfectly
> >> > ? ? ? ? > uninteresting event.
> >> > ? ? ? ? > -- Oscar Wilde
> >> > ? ? ? ? >
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