[ale] Should I worry about this...

[Lightner, Jeff]

You'd think the second tell was the low pay but unfortunately some of
this stuff is "front line" and many of the big name vendors don't really
pay well for that.  I remember feeling insulted when HP's outsource
vendor offered me $12/hour for the night shift no less back in 2002.

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Crawford Rainwater
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> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=artech+information+systems+scam
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> Looks like responding is just asking for trouble.
> 
> It's an ID theft scam.
> 

While typically I would agree with what Jamey is noticing, Artech is (or
was) an IBM Global Services recruiting group with their US phone numbers
in New Jersey.  I personally suspect they are based in India since they
have found an old resume of mine and keep pitching IBM jobs to me all
over the US though I am residing in Denver after repeatedly mentioning
this on numerous occasions via email and phone.

The second tell that is a concern is wanting those with qualified skills
and experience, but wanting to pay below bottom dollar.  $27/hour on a
W-2 with no benefits for someone that knows RedHat, Veritas, SANS, and
proper clustering being some of the "must haves" where I know groups in
Denver that would pay $35 to $40/hour on a W-2.  Those with the
practical experience there have a minimum of 3+ years of experience and
in this day and age, most are staying in a decent paying job.  Artech is
a 4th level or 5th level placement group meaning there are 4 or 5 other
placement folks (who also need their percentage) above them before you
get to the US group handling the placement and local recruiters.

If you know a local IBM recruiting group (or better yet someone at IBM
directly), I would hit them up first to be perfectly honest.  Downside
is that IBM sometimes locks projects with specific placement groups.
The local IBM'ers though do have access to look up both direct hire as
well as contract gigs typically which will help verify a deal.

In the end I would play it safe in this day and age.  I know it can be
hard for those looking for jobs, but deal with a group that is locally
based in your area or that you can verify via a third party.

FWIW.  And yes, I am a former IBM contractor back in the OS/2 days is
how I know about some of the IBM methods. ;-)

--- Crawford

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