[ale] Trolls: patent wars and now trademark stupids
Jim Kinney
jim.kinney at gmail.com
Thu May 13 12:24:27 EDT 2010
We laugh to hide the tears of anguish.
I am 100% in support of flatly abolishing the patent system entirely. Don't
restart it. Don't rethink it. Just dump it as a bad idea that outlived its
conceptualized usefulness. Make the new goal getting your name and
gizmo/idea published in something like Science or Make Magazine or the like
and then get it into production.
Just because Joe the inventor beat Fred the inventor to the door of the
patent office doesn't prove that Fred didn't do the work all on his own and
deserves the ability to get his version to market as well. Patents just
stink of anti-competitiveness. If Fred and Joe team up what can they do
together? They already think alike...
OK. For that matter I'm also not a fan of copyright and trademark except
under far more limiting arenas. I think copyright time should be decreased
to 10 years by default and extendable to an additional 20 years only with
the payment of a HUGE wad of cash (think tens of millions or maybe something
tied to the total revenues for the preceeding 10 years) to the schools
systems. Trademarks: each company gets 1 and only one for the life of the
company. It must be displayed on EVERYTHING related to the company with no
exceptions. It can include words but it MUST include a graphic design
(support the arts!) and a date established and the TM symbol. The date plus
TM symbol means the absence is not the company (thus parodies and art
students and schools don't get sued for "similar works") material or
representation.
I also really like the idea that companies, corporations - the only
currently known artificial life forms (besides lawyers and landlords), must
die at some point and be recycled like humans. Tie their charter to the life
span of their founders plus a bit (3-5 years) to liquidate the assets. Most
corps won't live that long but it stops the mega-corps from becoming "too
big to fail".
Or maybe as a culture we should start licensing the use everything. Starting
now. With this email. You are licensed to read this only once. If you read
it, in part or in whole, ever again, you are required to send a payment of
$0.02 to the EFF for every word, phrase or paragraph you read, silently or
outloud, up to a maximum of $2.14 per reading. If others read it along with
you they are subject to the same license terms. People who hear you read it
aloud are forbidden to make a copy in any form other than their own organic
memory.
I'm working on a license for concrete workers to apply to sidewalks and am
getting a patent for the "per step payment system" they will use to charge
royalties for walking on the sidewalks they build.
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Rev. Johnny Healey <rev.null at gmail.com>wrote:
> You guys joke, but Smuckers did actually patent the PB & J sandwich:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealed_crustless_sandwich
>
> They even sued someone over it.
>
> -Johnny
>
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com> wrote:
> > BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
> >
> > I'm calling groklaw....
> >
> > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:54 AM, William Fragakis <william at fragakis.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Jim, Jim, Jim. That was covered by my method for a Self Closing and
> >> Opening sandwich which I have the rights for.
> >>
> >> Or, better known as SCO Sandwich.
> >>
> >> /rimshot
> >>
> >> William
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, 2010-05-13 at 09:11 -0400, Jim Kinney wrote:
> >> > Hmm. My filling for patent for hinged bread device for enclosing
> >> > general substance was granted earlier to me.
> >> >
> >> > I'll sue!!!
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 11:12 PM, William Fragakis
> >> > <william at fragakis.com> wrote:
> >> > It (the bread) is hinged on one side, which, incidentally, I
> >> > patented
> >> > several years ago as a self closing baked good for enclosing
> >> > protein and
> >> > protein substitutes.
> >> >
> >> > wf
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, 2010-05-12 at 18:15 -0400, Tim Watts wrote:
> >> > > On Wed, 2010-05-12 at 16:27 -0500, Preston Boyington wrote:
> >> > > > Larry Johnson wrote:
> >> > > > > IANAL, but the word "footlong" has been in common usage
> >> > for so long (I
> >> > > > > used to buy them at the Southeastern Fair in the 1950s,
> >> > and I"m sure
> >> > > > > they predate that) that I doubt Subway would win if it
> >> > every went to
> >> > > > > court. But what small company wants to fight Subway?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > after reading the article I believe that all sandwich
> >> > places were the
> >> > > > target and the hotdog joint was an oopsie.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Quizno's has 'footlongs' if i remember correctly... i
> >> > suppose they got a
> >> > > > letter too.
> >> > > >
> >> > > Can someone explain to me how a hot dog is not a kind of
> >> > sandwich?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > ________
> >> > > Most modern calendars mar the sweet simplicity of our lives
> >> > by reminding
> >> > > us that each day that passes is the anniversary of some
> >> > perfectly
> >> > > uninteresting event.
> >> > > -- Oscar Wilde
> >> > >
> >> > >
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