[ale] [ALE-jobs] Fwd: Urgent Job Opening for LinuxAdministratorin Alpharetta, GA

[Richard Faulkner]

Temp-to-perm or contract is the way most companies go in an economy like
this.  Once you see temps getting busy then you know that things are
opening-up in the job market.  Give it a year or two and I think you'll
see the full-time market in much better shape (once the temp market has
shown strength that is...)

That seems to be the trend (that which I've experienced/seen and heard
reported in business circles).  

Thankfully you don't have to live in the same town you work in.  So much
work is "virtual" now that remote employees are becoming more-and-more
accepted.

This is where many of us can find work and build a future for
ourselves...pushing open-source solutions to business owners and
managers who need virtualized solutions that address the modern
"work-place" in this economy.

Case-in-point is a current contract I'm working now where all employees
of this company work from home.  There is a central office where they
can meet but it is really not used for much more than a rally point when
needed.  Everything is virtualized and phones routed to each employee's
home "office".  All support calls go to engineers working from home who
in turn connect administratively to user sessions on remote systems.
(Not gonna give away the business but I'm sure all of us know what I'm
talking about).

The Internet is where we work these days.  That's where my wife works
and where I expect to find my work as well.  It's just a matter of
getting the rest of the world in on it...that is where people like *us*
come in...to educate and proliferate technologies that can bring about
that future and hopefully just a little faster.  

Lord knows we need the work eh?



On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 15:53 -0400, Lightner, Jeff wrote:
> It's a little of both.  
> 
> A lot of companies like the contractor to perm because they don't have to "fire" you at the end of the evaluation period - they can simply "not renew" your contract and "not convert" you to permanent.   Typically this avoids the risk of various legal actions a "permanent" employee could take against an employer that "fired" them even though they did so in a "probationary" period.
> 
> Agencies like contracts because they can bill for you the whole time you are working for them.   If you are converted there is typically a fee for their trouble in locating you.   For me I came in contract to perm at current job and it was only supposed to be 3 months contract but it took more than 4 the paperwork to get done here.   At one point contract to perm was required here but the last I heard is they don't want contract to perm any more.
> 
> There's no hard and fast rule.  I worked at one major telecom that one day fired all its contractors and kept only its permanent employees.   An ex-coworker who'd gone to work as a contractor at another major telecom one day called to tell me they had fired all their permanent employees and kept only contractors.   Different companies - different philosophies.   
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Payne
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 3:36 PM
> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
> Subject: Re: [ale] [ALE-jobs] Fwd: Urgent Job Opening for LinuxAdministratorin Alpharetta, GA
> 
> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Jerald Sheets <questy at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mar 26, 2010, at 1:41 PM, Lightner, Jeff wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>  Even in that market whenever we got resumes of people that had more than 2 jobs in the last 2 years we'd pass on them.  It was usually a sign they were job hopping for bigger and bigger payouts.  I had changed jobs once and nearly doubled my salary within a year of changing but that was still only 2 jobs in a span of several years.   It's one thing to take an opportunity when it comes your way but quite another to job hop.  I recall the resume of one person who'd had 6 jobs in the last 2 years - we didn't even bother to interview him.  Once the bust hit, people like that had a very hard time finding permanent gigs anywhere.
> >
> >
> > Problem with that scenario in a bust-type situation is that you can be thrown around by employers very quickly.
> >
> > Take my situation, for instance.  I was in Baton Rouge and got laid off the week before Christmas '99.  I grabbed a quick DSL installer gig to make ends meet so my kids could have a Christmas.  By March, I realized this wouldn't work, so I got on with 3Com and moved to DC. By January of the next year I was laid off.  I went to Thompson for a few months, but my wife's medical condition was worsening so I went on back home to a job in a hospital.  2 1/2 years, 5 jobs.  None really my fault, the fault of a worsening economy.
> >
> > I don't usually dismiss a resume "out of hand" without looking at it.  When evaluating someone, I take into account their time at a position, what they were doing, the economic climate surrounding the time where they may have changed jobs a bit, etc.
> >
> > I read a statistic in a paper on HR issues that the average professional today in Tech will hold a position for 1.7 - 2.4 years, and can have as many as 16 professional positions in their lifetime.
> >
> > Try fitting that all on the "one page resume" your guidance counsellor told you was a must to have.
> >
> >
> > I'm not really buying it any more.  If the person is a good worker and they have project work to show for their time and have changed jobs a couple times in a period like 2000-2002 or 2008-2010, I'm willing to look at them.
> >
> > --j
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> 
> Since my job is moving to another state, I have started looking, is it
> true, that most companies only hire contractor to perm, or is how this
> companies make their money?
>