[ale] OT: Out in left field or in the sewers of The Big Apple

Jim Kinney jim.kinney at gmail.com
Mon Jul 13 14:30:44 EDT 2009


I can't see the workers as having _any_ fault in this. The bozo kid just as
easily could have fallen down the stairs to the subway.

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Richard Bronosky <Richard at bronosky.com>wrote:

> My point is that if it is not barricaded someone can fall in for any
> number of reasons. I have never had a problem letting my 2 year old
> walk 3 feet in front of me. There are 2 types of parents on this
> planet: Those that put their children on leashes and those that make
> fun of them. I fall into the latter group. I have trained my 2 year
> old to the point that in the China section of Macy's I tell her "one
> finger" and she touches anything and everything she wants and nothing
> gets broke. Even with all of this, I do not feel good about telling
> those collector of my taxes that it is acceptable protocol to be so
> irresponsible as to leave a manhole in this [presumed (we know no
> details)] condition. A child or even adult could easily be knocked
> into a hole by someone else.  The way I see it, if I did my job as
> sloppily as these workers, I wouldn't have any money with which to pay
> my taxes. So, in turn I don't expect my taxer to create such hazards
> with their sloppiness.
>
> I know that was all over the place. I've got a lot going on today, and
> am feeling sloppy about my ale-ing.
>
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Jerald Sheets<questy at gmail.com> wrote:
> > But Richard,
> >
> > You're not one that I'd expect would:
> >
> > a) let your kids roam around Manhattan unaccompanied/escorted/supervised
> > (even if you lived in NY)
> > b) let your kids be unaware of the potential pitfalls of not looking
> where
> > you're going
> >
> > Were this to happen to one of my kids, they'd be the first ones to call
> what
> > they did "dumb".  The secret is in the parenting.
> >
> > This was just plain ol' "dumb".  If you're old enough to hold a learner's
> > permit (and under some circumstances, a full driver's license), then
> you're
> > old enough to watch where you're going.
> >
> > ---
> > Jerald M. Sheets jr.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Richard Bronosky <Richard at bronosky.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm sorry, I have to agree with the parents on this one. Knowingly
> >> leaving a manhole cover off without a barrier is unacceptable. We are
> >> all eager to condemn a pop-tart on a cellphone, but as the father of a
> >> 1 & 2 year old I don't like the idea that there could be a > 2ft
> >> diameter hole in a sidewalk.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Scott Castaline<skotchman at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > How low can we go?!?! Saw this in Wired
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/07/girl-falls-into-manhole-while-texting-parents-sue/
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