[ale] [OT] AT&T DSL vs RoadRunner cable broadband

[tom]

I think we may agree here. I'm not going to hold my breath for sanity 
however. The incumbents have sufficient $$$ and size to fight very very 
hard for retaining their priviledged position.

On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, Jim Kinney wrote:

> BS has a wonderful habit of installing a type of equipment that no one
> can connect to. At least that's what the claim is. There are certain
> types of systems they are not required to allow third-party hookup to
> so that is what they deploy by default.
>
> The only _REAL_ solution to this nightmare is to legislate a permanent
> split between hardware provisioning and service provided over that
> hardware. When "Fred's Pole Service" doesn't deliver working
> wires/fiber/coax to a neighborhood, the data services can petition to
> have the contract revoked and a new last-mile provider can bid. This
> may need to be a local city/county servicing process or a neighborhood
> contracting process (think condo association here).
>
> I also feel very strongly that content providers should not be allowed
> into the access provider market. It's too much of a conflict of
> interest issue (Imagine if Disney offered Internet access.).
>
> On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 8:46 AM, tom <tfreeman at intel.digichem.net> wrote:
>> Last time I tried to upgrade my Speakeasy service here in Charlotte, they
>> couldn't. BellSouth (at the time) had this market so locked up tight I was
>> tied to the idsl option only. Supposedly a portion of Atlanta is the same
>> way.
>>
>> Don't get me wrong. Even the idsl service from Speakeasy was worth the
>> cost because of the level of service they provide (two lightning strikes
>> has definitely tested the equipment)
>>
>> Guess its time for me to try and get a faster service again from them.
>> Otherwise I'm afraid it may be RoadRunner sometime soon in the future.
>> (blech)
>>
>> On Fri, 6 Feb 2009, Jim Kinney wrote:
>>
>>> Speakeasy.
>>>
>>> Awesome service. The support is in native English and the person on
>>> the other end can actually run a connection test and do diagnostics.
>>> It's more $$ than AT&T or Comcast but I'd rather have things work and
>>> be able to get things fixed if they don't.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Sean C. McCord <scmlist at cycoresys.com> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 03:51:15PM -0700, JK wrote:
>>>>> I'm hoping maybe ATT will get their act together and make
>>>>> me happy sometime soon.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck is all I can say.  I used to recommend BellSouth DSL lines to
>>>> my customers, and woe is me for it, now.  BS has always been a pain to
>>>> work with, but at least you could get to someone who knew something
>>>> eventually and get the problem resolved... or if you were veteran, at
>>>> least bully the people into doing what needed to be done.
>>>>
>>>> Since the AT&T merger, however, it has been a swift spiral downward.
>>>> They are rapidly bumping out the people who knew anything at all levels
>>>> I've been able to interact with.  It is very reminescent of the old MCI
>>>> meltdown.
>>>>
>>>> At any rate, and without going into horrible details:  stay away from
>>>> AT&T DSL.  I can say that Comcast, while totally incompetent in the
>>>> support arena, at least works more often.  I have no experience with
>>>> Time-Warner.
>>>>
>>>> Consumer-level "broadband" is in a dysmal, non-competitive state, but, of
>>>> course, there's nothing new about that.  All's not doom and gloom,
>>>> though.  You can finally get double-digit download (but, mind you,
>>>> definitely not upload) speeds (after only a dozen years or so of general
>>>> "broadband" availability) at a somewhat affordable price. :)
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