[ale] Sunday 05-22-05 6PM RUN-AS-ROOT CHALLENGE

[ChangingLINKS.com]

On Thursday May 19 2005 15:13, you wrote:
> ChangingLINKS.com wrote:
> > I am not putting myself out to be that knowledgable. I hire people that
> > are. Moreover, you are not willing to go to the extent (that I am) to
> > prove YOUR box is secure. If your box is secure, you will be able to
> > substitute YOUR BOX for mine in the challenge (using the same rules I
> > have set forth).
> >
> > If you cannot . . . . your box (by my extreme definition) is insecure.
> > I try to secure my box not just from remote attacks, but from local
> > attacks where the system admin has the root password. That is because I
> > realize that I (as system admin) have caused more computer problems for
> > myself than remote attackers.
>
> You are an extreme coward, is what you are.  You still have 24 hours and
> 48 minutes to prove that my box is insecure.  Will you succeed?  The
> answer is no.
>
> I'm merely turning your own mentality back at you, script-kiddie.

Whoa, dude!
It's one thing for your arguments to be full of fantasy, but please don't 
apply that to me. I am not a script-kiddie.  I am not a coward with regard to 
your system or mine.

I am not a "hacker" or professional system administrator. 
I cannot FIND your system or crack it. I shouldn't have to:
The challenge rules eliminate the oppositions needs to bypass certain security 
features.

I will not go as far as to call you a coward, but I note that YOU are clearly 
afraid to put your box in the challenge. 

I don't buy the argument that there will be "too much bandwidth used" 
How many people do you really think would participate in the challenge working 
against you - especially when you take the majority position of NOT running 
as root? Secondly, how much bandwith do you think will be consumed by people 
connecting to your root prompt and POSSIBLY pushing a few (if that) small 
programs onto your box? Given the time limitation, my guess is that traffic 
will be limited. The bandwith argument is another sliding slope argument.
Heck, if you were that concerned about it - you would have unsubscribed from 
this list a week ago! :)


You fear using your box in the challenge. I do not.
You resort to name-calling and fantasy to prove your point. I do not.
You are even afraid to participate in the challenge with my box. I am not.

"Much fear I sense in you" 

-Yoda


Please respect others on this list, yourself, and me. 
Tone down the name calling and such, OK? 
It's one thing to be weak. It is another to be a poor sport.
-- 
Wishing you Happiness, Joy, and Laughter,
Drew Brown
http://www.ChangingLINKS.com