[ale] Linux Distributions

[James Sumners]

I remember things quite well and I don't recall a single one of these
problems being posted to the ALE list. But, I also hardly ever read
your posts because you and I just plain disagree on about everything.
For instance, you are blaming problems on Debian because you can not
find people willing to work with someone who thinks that running as
root is a good thing when Debian is a _very_ security concious
distribution. The people that run Debian, and know what they are
doing, are also very security concious. When you tell them that you
won't listen to their suggestions is it little wonder that they will
not help you?

There is only ONE instance in which running as root is a "good thing"
-- when the machine isn't connected to a network and will never, ever,
be touched by anyone except yourself. Even then it is a bad idea for
reasons already stated by others on the list.

Sorry, but you have not given any information as to what is wrong in
_any_ of your problems. I did the best I could at 8:15 in the morning
with the information you gave us. If you really, truly, want help with
your problems you need to first learn to accept the answers and second
provide enough information to get the problems solved.

This is not a case of the Debian community being arrogant. No, it is
quite the opposite.

On 5/17/05, ChangingLINKS.com <groups at changinglinks.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday May 17 2005 07:20, James Sumners wrote:
> > Those are actually six problems and none of them are really "Debian
> > problems." Debian is not a distribution for those that need their hand
> > held; that is what Red Hat, Mandrake, and SuSE are for. With Debian
> > you are going to thave to do some work.
> 
> Perhaps I need my hand held. In this case, I would say so.
> BUT, I would also say that you need to READ and/or grow a memory.
> 
> Originally, I had stated that these problems were problems that I had taken to
> several installfests (here in Texas), that I had attempted to HIRE people to
> fix (on Guru and Scriptlance) and worked on myself. Further, If I remember
> correctly, I had also posted some (if not all of these problems) on this
> list. I also kept a few notes on what was tried and suggested so that other's
> could attempt to fix the problem without rehashing various solutions.
> 
> I consider this a Debian problem.
> Here's WHY: When people are not beating on their chests to defend it and
> blindly saying RTFM, OTHERS are not willing to work on the system BECAUSE it
> is Debian. Of the remaining people, some are intimidated by the way I choose
> to run the system.
> While these issues may have been resolved more quickly in other distros, I sit
> by waiting for someone who feels they are competent in Debian AND willing to
> help rather than attack me for having the problem.
> 
> I must point out here, that not only have I encountered everything M$ claimed
> I would - but I have gone farther: I sit personally attacked for having the
> problem in the first place. In this case, I have a dozen people that I have
> tried to fix these issues - and couldn't. In this case, the manual was read
> several times - and on page four it said "Tell that one guy to STFU!"
> --
> Wishing you Happiness, Joy, and Laughter,
> Drew Brown
> http://www.ChangingLINKS.com
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James Sumners
http://james.roomfullofmirrors.com/

"All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power attracts
pathological personalities. It is not that power corrupts but that it
is magnetic to the corruptible. Such people have a tendency to become
drunk on violence, a condition to which they are quickly addicted."

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