OT Re: [ale] Big Brother Wins, We lose... From /. Real-ID Passes U.S. Senate 100-0

Randal Jarrett rsj at radio.org
Wed May 11 13:37:34 EDT 2005


But would not setting standards of identification such as driver
licenses come under 'Article 1 section 8' of the constitution?

"To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several
States, and with the Indian Tribes;"


On Wed, 2005-05-11 at 13:07 -0400, Sean Kilpatrick wrote:
> On Wednesday 11 May 2005 12:18 pm, James Baldwin wrote:
> | It is hypocritical to demand that States be allowed to produce  
> | whatever identification they wish based on whatever requirements they  
> | defined and have these accepted everywhere while refusing the Federal  
> | government be allowed to require that specific identification meet  
> | its requirements. So, they are not requiring the States do anything  
> | more than they wish. It will require the citizens of that state to  
> | secure other forms of identification if they choose to elect  
> | officials who wish to not meet these _reasonable_ minimum requirements
> 
> I would suggest, gently, that the Constitution does not speak to
> the issue of personal identification. The (mostly) forgotten Tenth
> Amendment states, "The powers not delegated to the United States by
> the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved
> to the States respectively, or to the people."
> The Founding Fathers deeply feared a too powerful Federal Government.
> They very deliberately created a Republic of States, not a homogeneous
> National identity. Yes, the republican form of government can be a
> bit messy at times. But it serves as a strong check rein to unbridled
> Federal power. And, yes, identification papers were the rule, not the
> exception throughout Europe at the beginning of the 19th century, thanks
> to Napoleon.
> 
> Sean
> 
> 
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