[ale] OT: U.S. National Identity Cards All But Law

[Jim Popovitch]

BTW, I didn't see this mentioned yet, but the current GA Governor signed
a law (from the current GA legislature) that stops the collection of
fingerprints collected when applying for a drivers license.
Additionally, the law calls for the elimination of the past collected
fingerprints.  This topic was discussed here in the past.  Do I need to
mention the political party that brought this about. ;-)

-Jim P.

On Tue, 2005-05-10 at 13:19 -0400, Randal Jarrett wrote:
> But Aaron, How do you really feel ???    :-)
> 
> On Tue, 2005-05-10 at 09:39 +0000, aaron wrote:
> > And you expected anything different after these unethical, Orwellian, big 
> > brother, massive government, bomb and bankrupt, immoral, fascist frauds were 
> > tacitly allowed to seize unrestrained control of our government?
> > 
> > The Irrational ID fraud is just another of their vomitous "nuclear" terrorist 
> > actions against our freedoms. The end goal is to carpet bomb our U.S. 
> > political landscape into a barren, uninhabitable, irradiated toxic wasteland 
> > prison for every working class citizen, delivering a mute, brain washed, fear 
> > driven, superstitious and supplicant population into impoverished corporate 
> > servitude.  At least that is what their relentless litany of corrupt 
> > policies, economic incompetence, legislative war on  constitutional liberties  
> > and satanic, hate based assaults against justice and christian principles 
> > would suggest.
> > 
> > peace
> > (because the only free nation will be a nation of peace)
> > aaron
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Monday 09 May 2005 17:46, Jim Popovitch wrote:
> > > ./ is running a story on the RealID card, also if you are against it
> > > here is a site with more info: http://www.unrealid.com/  Certainly this
> > > is a subject that deserves more scrutiny. 
> > > 
> > > -Jim P.
> > > 
> > > On Fri, 2005-05-06 at 16:32 -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 2005-05-06 at 16:15 -0400, Randal Jarrett wrote:
> > > > > Bad news follows good!!
> > > > > [snip]
> > > > > The worst part is the completely machine-readable/automatic 
> > > > > nature of the thing -- you might not even know you're giving 
> > > > > your information away." 
> > > > 
> > > > Isn't that exactly the state of the current mess?  How many
> > > > "unauthorized consumer information disclosures" were reported in the
> > > > past 6 months, how many weren't reported?  Thieves are abusing the
> > > > current ID situation so much that drivers licenses are as bad a joke as
> > > > social security cards.  
> > > > 
> > > > Frankly the US States have done a horrible job of issuing consistent
> > > > quality IDs.  Most banks consider your ATM card (w/ picture) better ID
> > > > than your state drivers license.   Even college ID cards are better
> > > > managed than state issued IDs.
> > > > 
> > > > I'm not 100% for a national ID, but I am 100% for a national standard
> > > > for ID as well as a national standard for retention of personal data.
> > > > 
> > > > Btw, my US Passport trumps all other ID no matter where I go.  The US
> > > > government did get it right with Passports, and they probably will get
> > > > it right with something like RealID.
> > > > 
> > > > Let me know if they start talking about tattooing it across your
> > > > forehead. ;-)
> > > > 
> > > > -Jim P. 
> > > > 
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