[ale] OT: U.S. National Identity Cards All But Law

Randal Jarrett rsj at radio.org
Tue May 10 13:29:06 EDT 2005


But Aaron, How do you really feel ???    :-)

On Tue, 2005-05-10 at 09:39 +0000, aaron wrote:
> And you expected anything different after these unethical, Orwellian, big 
> brother, massive government, bomb and bankrupt, immoral, fascist frauds were 
> tacitly allowed to seize unrestrained control of our government?
> 
> The Irrational ID fraud is just another of their vomitous "nuclear" terrorist 
> actions against our freedoms. The end goal is to carpet bomb our U.S. 
> political landscape into a barren, uninhabitable, irradiated toxic wasteland 
> prison for every working class citizen, delivering a mute, brain washed, fear 
> driven, superstitious and supplicant population into impoverished corporate 
> servitude.  At least that is what their relentless litany of corrupt 
> policies, economic incompetence, legislative war on  constitutional liberties  
> and satanic, hate based assaults against justice and christian principles 
> would suggest.
> 
> peace
> (because the only free nation will be a nation of peace)
> aaron
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday 09 May 2005 17:46, Jim Popovitch wrote:
> > ./ is running a story on the RealID card, also if you are against it
> > here is a site with more info: http://www.unrealid.com/  Certainly this
> > is a subject that deserves more scrutiny. 
> > 
> > -Jim P.
> > 
> > On Fri, 2005-05-06 at 16:32 -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2005-05-06 at 16:15 -0400, Randal Jarrett wrote:
> > > > Bad news follows good!!
> > > > [snip]
> > > > The worst part is the completely machine-readable/automatic 
> > > > nature of the thing -- you might not even know you're giving 
> > > > your information away." 
> > > 
> > > Isn't that exactly the state of the current mess?  How many
> > > "unauthorized consumer information disclosures" were reported in the
> > > past 6 months, how many weren't reported?  Thieves are abusing the
> > > current ID situation so much that drivers licenses are as bad a joke as
> > > social security cards.  
> > > 
> > > Frankly the US States have done a horrible job of issuing consistent
> > > quality IDs.  Most banks consider your ATM card (w/ picture) better ID
> > > than your state drivers license.   Even college ID cards are better
> > > managed than state issued IDs.
> > > 
> > > I'm not 100% for a national ID, but I am 100% for a national standard
> > > for ID as well as a national standard for retention of personal data.
> > > 
> > > Btw, my US Passport trumps all other ID no matter where I go.  The US
> > > government did get it right with Passports, and they probably will get
> > > it right with something like RealID.
> > > 
> > > Let me know if they start talking about tattooing it across your
> > > forehead. ;-)
> > > 
> > > -Jim P. 
> > > 
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