[ale] OT: H1B: PLEASE DISREGARD EARLIER POSTS

[Sergio Chaves]

I'm with you 100%.

Now please, would the person who hired the  $20.00/hr Professional Lawn 
Service Co. over the $8.50/hr spanish who can get the job done in the 
same professional way raise you hand?

Also please, would the person who hired the  $2,500.00 Professional 
Carpet Co. over the $1,700.00 spanish/latino who can get the job done in 
the same professional way raise you hand?

And how about that brick laying job you need done? Would you choose 
"Mike Stevenson" at $30.00/hr or "Jose FromMexico" at $7.50/hr?

People complain about foreigners taking "their" jobs here all the time. 
If they only practiced what they preach...

The law of things should apply to all things; people or businesses. 
Businesses, just like us, are looking at the bottom line.

So now the world is smaller, everything is "global" and you have 
competition. Complaining will do no good. Foreigners don't.
Foreigners found out that they can get jobs by saving $ to american 
companies/individuals/small businesses. American 
companies/individuals/small businesses responded by hiring them. 
Capitalism of Corporate America; "more bang for the buck".

I think its time for those who complaint to re-invent themselves and 
adapt to the "new economy".

People *do need* other skills (please see previous post in this thread) 
for any job they apply for at this day-and-age. People skills,  a second 
(third?) language, etc. will definitely add up to a better job security.

I firmly believe that foreigners are embracing opportunities *in every 
field* created by a job market (IT here) where you quite often find 
things like these when hiring :
<quote from previous post>

> 1 competent developer who is probably still unemployed because he wont
> take < 100k!!!
> 5 liars who misrepresented their qualifications
> 3 lazy bums who didn't even make it to the interview
> 3 indecisive nitwits
> 6 newly employed cancellations
> 7 idiots who obviously don't need a job
> 16 resume droppers who add to the signal to noise problems in IT related hiring
> 54 wannabe dot-com folks who thought being able to spell www would get
> them a job


</quote from previous post>

Sergio



Jim Popovitch wrote:

>On Wed, 2004-12-29 at 22:30 -0500, Jonathan Rickman wrote:
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>>If he asked for 15%, I'd ask for some perks. If he asked for 
>>20%, I'd politely inform him....
>>    
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>
>I was once, only once, *told* that I was facing a 50% pay cut due to
>downsizing (it was 2001 after all).  Faced with that I negotiated an
>honorable separation (from an Indian employer no less, and a good one at
>that) and I took a few months of idle time (the key here is to do some
>advanced financial planning).  Afterwards I returned to work (four
>months post 9-11) in the same (intimate) industry and have been
>contently employed since.  IMHO a 20% pay cut, for the salaries we are
>asking for, is NOTHING.  And should be offered, instead of asked for,
>when the company you *depend* on faces financial difficulties.
>
>-Jim P.
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