[ale] mail headers question

Stephan Uphoff ups at tree.com
Fri Aug 27 13:28:39 EDT 2004


On Fri, 2004-08-27 at 11:50, Joe Steele wrote:
> On Friday, August 27, 2004, Geoffrey wrote:
> > Stephan Uphoff wrote:
> > > Can you send an (obfuscated) complete header of the failed email.
> >
> > Sure, I think the first line is the issue:
> >
> > Received: from 66-23-211-34.clients.speedfactory.net[66.23.211.34]
> > (helo=[172.16.255.106])
> >          by mrelay.perfora.net with ESMTP (Nemesis),
> >          id 0MKyxe-1C01Ul3mMO-00085u; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 13:23:35 -0400
> 
> Correct me if I have misunderstood something:
> 
> You sent an e-mail addressed to a mindspring recipient, using Mozilla
> as your mua, and using your speedfactory internet connection for
> transport.
> 
> Mozilla was configured to forward the e-mail to a 1and1 smtp server
> known as mrelay.perfora.net (a.k.a. smtp.perfora.net).  The reason
> you configured Mozilla to do this is because the "From:" address of
> your message used a domain name which is in some way associated with
> the 1and1 ISP.

And smtp.perfora.net != smtp.1and1.net
But it looks like both are not loved by some spam lists
http://openrbl.org/

> 
> The mrelay.perfora.net server accepted the message from you and
> attempted to forward it on to mindspring.  Mindspring rejected it.
> 
> If all this is true, then isn't mrelay.perfora.net acting as a open
> relay by accepting mail from one outside source (speedfactory) and
> forwarding to another outside source (mindspring)?
> 
> In any case, have you considered that maybe your message was bounced
> because mindspring doesn't trust perfora.net (rightly or wrongly),
> rather than because of your private/NATed address in the header?

I think this is the most likely scenario.
Especially after looking at http://openrbl.org/.

Did the (successful) test with an older Mozilla version use
exactly the same path?


	Stephan
 


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