[ale] New website for H1B [Slightly OT]

ChangingLINKS.com x3 at ChangingLINKS.com
Tue May 27 22:59:01 EDT 2003


> Where's your 'steak code' Drew? According to what you said "Rather than
> argue the point, I simply re-wrote the code (several times) so that
> nothing he did is in use anymore", if you wrote steak, you wouldn't have had 
> to rewrite it "several times" just to get meatloaf....

Yes. I had at least one particular script re-written 4-6 times. Why? Because 
my demands changed. Code is really a bunch of rules, and I changed the rules 
over time (though fundamentally the code is the same). The code evolved.

The code concerned has already been posted on this list. Moreover George 
Carless ("offshore") gave the most significant contribution to the code AND 
offered to help more! Moreover, he DID help more - and his simple suggestion 
saved me at least $100 and a lot of stress from the testing I was doing. 

I was so impressed that I posted a big thank you, and George threw in a 
disclaimer to my claim - how humble! Just on that short experience, I would 
glady commission him on a project, or refer him to someone else. 

The man has class and if you read (and understand) his posts, he has LOTS of 
emotional control and intelligence. He is cool headed when ignorant flames 
float about him. He has inspired me to be less troll-like.

>> Put up, or well, you know the rest....
First of all, the burden of proof (that there is code that *should* cost 3 
times more sits squarely on the shoulders of the man who claimed to be a 
"steak" programmer worthy of higher pay. That being said . . .

I *can* post code that I am very impressed with. 
It logs into Yahoo gets the symbols and imports the stock prices into my mySQL 
database in PHP. The script cost less than $70, was DONE within 1 day, is 
fully commented, was coded in Russia, and most importantly, works perfectly. 
At $10 an hour, it would probably be considered "meatloaf code."

(note: I cannot post it right now because it is on a partition that is slated 
for data recovery, but the code exists and I would challenge you (Dan) to 
write it so much better that I make more money with the code).

My question is: 
WHY would I want to pay $200 for code that does the same thing?

How can Dan Mount, or Grant make it any better than "working" and very fast? 

I have learned that "knowledge and code are cheap." 
_I_ am not good at admining a Linux box, or programming. I can do both a 
little. I will never be a pro programmer or pro Linux admin. I know that I 
would not be competitive, because I don't enjoy the work. I am fast-paced 
task oriented (not very detail oriented) - so I fit better as a manager than 
an employee. I can create useful programs and find clients to pay for the 
programs to be developed. 

I am primarily an entreprenuer who knows that it is not important to know how 
to do a task. It is more important to be able to find (and afford) someone 
that does.
-- 
Wishing you Happiness, Joy and Laughter,
Drew Brown
http://www.ChangingLINKS.com
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