[ale] OT: more info on where all the jobs are (going...)

Greg runman at speedfactory.net
Mon Mar 17 11:04:20 EST 2003


Well, the darkside is not hiring at this time. Please submit your resume and
we will keep it on file ...

G

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ale-admin at ale.org [mailto:ale-admin at ale.org]On Behalf Of
> Christopher Fowler
> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 10:41 AM
> To: ale at ale.org
> Subject: RE: [ale] OT: more info on where all the jobs are (going...)
>
>
> I would rather submit myself to the darkside.
>
>
> On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 10:33, Greg wrote:
> > I would rather work at MicroCenter or CompUSA  " Hey, you want
> some RAM with
> > that pc ?" or "Hey, wanna super-size that hard drive ?"
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ale-admin at ale.org [mailto:ale-admin at ale.org]On Behalf Of
> > > matty91 at bellsouth.net
> > > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 10:13 AM
> > > To: ale at ale.org
> > > Subject: Re: [ale] OT: more info on where all the jobs are (going...)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, Mike Panetta wrote:
> > >
> > > > I was actually trying to be broad in the "companies must
> have employees"
> > > > part.  But to be more to your point, what if all the fast
> food joints in
> > > > the US suddenly decided to replace all the workers with
> robots that cost
> > > > say $100k and could replace everyone thats required (except
> the manager)
> > > > in a franchise to operate it, IE the cooks, the order
> takers/cashiers,
> > >
> > > I always wanted to be a fry cook. ;)
> > >
> > > > and the drive through person.  It could do all these jobs
> cheaper and
> > > > faster (more efficiently) then the people it replaced, and
> it only cost
> > > > around $20-$50K a year to maintain.  That would make people like me
> > > > happy, because I am partial to robotics (I actually work for a small
> > > > robotics company), and I could probably get a repair/programming job
> > > > pretty easy.  But what about all the other people that got replaced?
> > > > For the most part they are uneducated or not motivated in
> any way, so
> > > > they could not get jobs fixing robots (or anything else technical I
> > > > would imagine).  What do you think that could do to the
> economy?  Now
> > > > (and I know this is harsh, but just for the sake of
> argument) think of
> > > > forign labour as the robots.  They are cheaper then us, and
> can replace
> > > > anything we do (barring repair jobs or whatever requires
> you actually be
> > > > at the location).  Now where are we?  (forget the part that
> they may not
> > > > be as efficient, or as fast as us as that seems to be irrelevant to
> > > > companies anyway, as they only care about cost)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 2003-03-15 at 23:17, ChangingLINKS.com wrote:
> > > > > I think that you are missing most of the spectrum.
> > > > >
> > > > > Even if ALL of the IT jobs were to leave this country, I
> > > doubt "no one" would
> > > > > be able to afford software. Foriegn cars (in my experience)
> > > are usually
> > > > > better made - even to this day (ok limit this to Japan and
> > > Germany, and
> > > > > exclude many VWs and Audis).
> > > > >
> > > > > I believe history showed that industry can leave places like
> > > PA and Detroit,
> > > > > and we can still have an economic boom in the future (late
> > > 90s). America
> > > > > seemed to go from agriculture - to industry - to IT (not a
> > > history major over
> > > > > here) and I believe that we can go "to infinity and beyond."
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't believe that foreign policy (exporting labor,
> > > importing goods and HB1
> > > > > issues) are the leading cause of our economic swings.
> > > > >
> > > > > Drew
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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