[ale] New worm destablized Internet

James P. Kinney III jkinney at localnetsolutions.com
Sun Jan 26 00:05:54 EST 2003


Please inform us of the bank in use. My bank is irritating me to no end
(wachovia/worst onion) and I'm shopping around.

On Sat, 2003-01-25 at 18:56, Transam wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 04:58:41PM -0500, Jim wrote:
> > On Saturday 25 January 2003 04:46 pm, Adrin wrote:
> > > Just heard on the news that at least one bank is having trouble with ATMs.
> > > Kind of makes you wonder what kind of security they have on their system.
> > > And I thought the ATM network was separate from Internet?
> 
> > All of the ATM's I know about are on a separate network from the Internet. 
> > Think about it. ATM's have been around a lot longer than the Internet. And 
> > why would anyone in their right mind hool ATM's up to the Internet. Remember: 
> > Banking is tightly regulated. And in spite of the popular perception that 
> > government can't do anything right, the ATM network, in my experience, is 
>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > very secure and works very well.
>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> You probably believe in the tooth fairy too.
> 
> ATM security actually is rather bad.  This is the realy reason why there is
> a limit of $300-$1000 on the amount you can withdraw daily -- to limit the
> losses in case of a security problem.  (I worked for one of the larger vendors
> in that market, Stratus Computer, for five years.  I don't consider it
> appropriate for me to discuss most of the vulnerabilities.)
> 
> In answer to "Who in their right mind would use Windows to manage your
> account?", well, lots of banks, some of them rather large.  Scary.
> My bank uses a highly hardened version of UNIX that I helped develop.
> 
> Bob Toxen
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