[ale] Nusphere PHPEd review (rant)

[John Wells]

Sorry Chris...wasn't as clear as I should have been.

By function list, I meant a file navigation utility (often down the
left-hand side) where all parsed functions in a file or project appear. 
Very similar to a class browser, in which class definitions appear.

You're talking about autocompletion, at which both Zend and Komodo do a
very good job.

Let me know if Komodo does function lists as well.

Thanks,

John

Christopher Bergeron said:
> Komodo has function lists...  It does function completion based on the
> type of file you're working on.  So if I type "str" I can get a dropdown
>  box of str_replace, strlen, etc... (php functions).  It does the same
> for other languages (unless I'm mistaken).  FWIW, I'm using the
> commercial version of Komodo (1.2).
>
> HTH,
> CB
>
>
>
> John Wells wrote:
>
>>I've just finished reviewing phped from nusphere and thought I'd post a
>> review in case any of you are ever in the position of choosing a PHP
>> IDE.
>>
>>This piece of software has to be the worst $300 ($495 with upgrades and
>> support) bug-infested clump of 1s and 0s to ever run on my machine.  In
>> fact, it rendered my Windows 98 box unbootable, and would never fully
>> run, even after following all directions to a T.  Luckily it was an old
>> box I kept around and not one of my "production" boxes (course, win98
>> would never be on one of my prod boxes).
>>
>>Nusphere claims to support Linux and Windows 95 thru XP.  Can't verify
>> the Windows side because of the installation difficulties, but I was
>> able to install it on Linux.
>>
>>If you're like me, function comes before form, so I was willing to be
>> patient with the IDE.  But in all honesty, it's very ugly...not sure
>> what libraries they're using (I'll check when I get back to work), but
>> for $300 I expected a LOT more.  Popup menus are clipped without
>> borders and don't expand wide enough (no way to resize), layout is
>> horrible.  It looks like a school project.
>>
>>That said, function didn't hold up its end either.  After reading the
>> web site, I was fully expecting a spectacular development environment
>> with features I couldn't find anywhere else.  Turns out, it's just
>> another typical php editor with integrated debugging, autocomplete
>> (that doesn't always work), and prefab html tag generation in the same
>> vein as Bluefish.
>>
>>Two features that are rather nice, performance analysis (identifies
>> where threads spend the most time in your code) and MySql interfacing
>> aren't working yet.  I'm going to give it one more go on Monday, but
>> I'm not holding my breath.
>>
>>I've searched the web and found only positive reviews for PhpEd.  I'm
>> calling the authors on Monday to find out what they're smoking, where
>> they got it, and if they could spare a bit.
>>
>>Nusphere does a good job of marketing, but that appears to be all.
>>
>>This has got to be the angriest I've ever been made by a piece of
>> software!
>>
>>Anyway, I'm also looking at Komodo and Zend IDE.  Zend is ahead at this
>> point, as everything just works and the PHP debugger screams.  Komodo
>> is pulling a close second due to its multi-language support, but it
>> doesn't seem to have a function list or class browser...both of which I
>> feel are necessities to qualify as a full-featured ide.  If anyone out
>> there knows differently, please let me know.  Zend also seems to be the
>> best value ($195 for a year of support and a free upgrade to 2.6, which
>> will bring in CVS functionality) compared to Komodo ($300).
>>
>>John
>>
>>
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